PROTOTYPE 3 arriving 5 of 7 now!! The Q8, a BLF premium edition SRK type monster flashlight

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PROTOTYPE 3 arriving 5 of 7 now!! The Q8, a BLF premium edition SRK type monster flashlight

PROTOTYPES ARRIVING
in order of arrival:
J-Dub74
See:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1115720#comment-1115720
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1117002#comment-1117002
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1117025#comment-1117025
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1119796#comment-1119796
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128197#comment-1128197

Tom, in
See:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124576#comment-1124576
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1126688#comment-1126688
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1126870#comment-1126870

MRsDNF, in
See:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1129369#comment-1129369

The Miller, in
See:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124907#comment-1124907
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1125215#comment-1125215
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1125501#comment-1125501
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1126260#comment-1126260
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1126869#comment-1126869
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128156#comment-1128156
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128183#comment-1128183
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128190#comment-1128190
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128196#comment-1128196
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128294#comment-1128294
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128302#comment-1128302
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1129915#comment-1129915 (baking)

Djozz, in
See:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124867#comment-1124867
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1125081#comment-1125081
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1125220#comment-1125220
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1125860#comment-1125860
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1126044#comment-1126044
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1127645#comment-1127645
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1128582#comment-1128582
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1131125#comment-1131125 (waterproof test!)

Thijsco, in
See:

DEL, not in
Pilotdog68, not in

Cells are hot now, here is the post with Toms test of them:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1119218#comment-1119218

Please check if you are on the list correct
ctrl F / MD F or mobile options -> find in page
type your BLF name and let me know if it is correct?
Usernames with special things like underscore in it can be shown differently then you write them.
The mass PM groups are not up to date, so no worry there unless you are on the list above number 1275 and not in a mass PM group, then let me know as well please.
Mr. Scott organised the list alphabetical here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1121865#comment-1121865 for eas checking, thanks!

PROTOTYPE V3
Tom received prototype 3, starting post about it here: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1124576#comment-1124576
some pics and impressions:

Tom E wrote:

I believe these are true V6 3D’s based on the beam tint and output.


 


Here’s some measurements:


   On SONY VTC6 soldered tops at 4.21V,  lumens: 6,375 start, 5,850 30 secs, throw: 59 kcd (486 meters)


   On Samsun 30Q soldered tops at 4.19V, lumens: 6,260 start, 5,800 30 secs, throw: 59 kcd (486 meters)


   On Samsung 30Q button tops 4.19V, &nbsp; lumens: <strong>6,090 start, 5,620 @30 secs, throw: 58 kcd (482 meters)


 






The new designed plastic ring




LED’s, not perfectly centered but not bad. Centering pieces fit tight:



Center screw removed, 18 AWG LED wires, 2 mm thick MCPCB (round #2 was ~1.2 mm thick):



Driver views:






 


Round #3 still has great square threads:



Engravings improved:




Round #2:



Round #3:



Round #2:



Round #3:



4X SRK clone (Securitylng) on left with XM-L2 U3 3D’s, BLF Q8 on right. Beamshots appear more bluish than they really are



4X SRK clone (Securitylng):



BLF Q8:



 

Impressions of prototype V2
Tom modded this one to have the Narsil version to be used on production Q8 and the XPL V6 LEDs. Can’t get closer to production then this. Reviewer J-Dub74 as somebody not in the team for objectivity, see posts:
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1115720#comment-1115720
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1117002#comment-1117002
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1117025#comment-1117025

DROPTEST VIDEO
https://youtu.be/i9DGpzg3w_M
Good news, Thorfire did the droptest. WITH cells in it so more heavy and without shipping package, this is good result! (And just look at that tint when they click it on Wink )
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1116912#comment-1116912
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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1099109#comment-1099109
Prototype 2:

looking sharp
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better LED alignment
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do we see cell polarity protection?
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double springs!
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MODDED to look different:

Prototype 1:


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http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/1052511#comment-1052511

Tom E wrote:

This is my list of shortcuts I’ve been keeping. Should be a good starting pt to add to the OP:


First Proto pics, tests – post 3348


First proto details – post 3390


Beamshots at EdgeWood – post 3427


Batts, diffusor, reflector measurements – post 3486


pics of lights from the beamshots – post 3441


 


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Old fashioned quality SRK style flashlight group buy
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first look at first produced Q8
The first prototype is ready.
And it is send to Tom for a good check!
Here are some pictures:


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OK the SRK is a light that comes up very often, and well when it comes up there always are people saying how poorly they are made nowadays.
Sky Ray King, a soda can flashlight. Once constructed solid, now cloned and made cheaper and cheaper. The good cooling properties are long gone and many have fake LatticeBright LEDs on a thin aluminium board driven by a poor quality thin wired driver.

So lets force out a good one like they used to be, but with modern features.

4 cells in parallel and LEDs with a 3535 footprint are non negotiable at this time.
All who want something else have to do modding of this light to achieve it.
The light will be worthy of modding and wherever possible the most mod friendly choice shall be made.

The Q-team
djozz LED tester, general info
Tom E Software and driver design NARSIL SOFTWARE INFORMATION
Pilotdog68 Driverdesign
MRsDNF General info, communiction during China office hours
Thijsco CAD analist
The Miller General info, communication

Thorfire wants to work with us!
Barry (Thorfire) is enthusiastic and willing to work with us.

Neal is enthusiastic and willing to work with us.

The current plan is to develop the light with Thorfire and sales and distribution are handled by Banggood.

Q8 BLF Special SRK inspired flashlight
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Chinese translation: http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/922764#comment-922764

………….. specs ……………….. notes

BLF Q8
………….. Marking/logo “BLF Q8” for the groupbuy, manufacturer can choose own marking/logo afterwards
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Pricing
………….. $40 .. including shipping …. manufacturer can decide own pricing afterwards
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Emitters
………….. 4 pieces …. 3535 footprint
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………….. Cree XPL V6 3D ……. Yes for now it is decided the non HI XPL
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………….. LEDs mounted on DTP stars (NOW a sweet coper DTP ledboard in one piece!)
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Internals
………….. Integrated LED shelf …. for good thermal dissipation at least 4mm thick
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………….. 20 AWG Wires …………
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………….. Driver retainer ring (NOW proto 2 has screws holding the driver down covered with a protective ring)
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………….. Double springs on tail PCB
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………….. Threads square or trapeziod (not triangular) for battery tube
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………….. Anodised threads part battery tube that screws into the head for lock out
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………….. Tailap can be unscrewed to access the pcb connecting the – side of the cells
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………….. Threads square or trapeziod (not triangular) for tail cap
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………….. Threads bezel can be anything manufacturer chooses
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………….. Electronic side switch (NOW proto 2 with illumination and rubber cover)
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………….. Mounting for tripod
………………….. mounting nut hole not drilled though the whole body to ensure waterproofing placed opposite of the button
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Optics
………….. Aluminium reflector ……. same top sizes as the older SRK reflectors
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………….. Glass lens ……………. 2mm thick
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Protective

NOW brass contact ring on driver against wear and tear like high end soda can lights have!

………….. O-ring bezel ………. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring battery tube … quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. O-ring tail cap ……. quality thus thick and perfect fit
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………….. Aliminum alloy …….. 6061-T6
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………….. Type II anodisation…not HA3 for the groupbuy
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………….. Waterproof side switch
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………….. Stainless steel bezel
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………….. Light comes with spare o-rings in all the sizes used
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Software
………….. Tom E Narsil firmware
………….. Several modes and blink modes
………….. User configurable
………….. Fixed modes and ramping
………….. Voltage check
………….. Low voltage cut off
………….. lock out
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Driver design
………….. Tom E Electronic switch driver for Narsil firmware
………….. Very low parasitic drain
………….. Able to run 1,2,3 and/or 4 button top 18650 cell(s)
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……. MCU …. Atmel ATTINY85V-10SH or ATTINY85-20SU package is important: 8S2
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……. FET …. NOW used PSMN3R0-30YLDX we aim for change to PSMN2R0-30YLDX

…………………… form factor: PPAK SO-8
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……. Resistor ….. 0805 SMD 47K OHM 1% 1/8W
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……. Resistor ….. 0805 SMD 220K OHM 1% 1/8W
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……. Resistor ….. 0805 SMD 47K OHM 1% 1/8W
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……. Diode …….. Schottky, 10v 570 kA SOD323 Manu PN: ZLLS410TA, Digi-Key PN: ZLLS410CT-ND
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……. Capacitor…. 0805 Ceramic, 12uF 16V X7R
……………………………….. If possible 12 uF or higher instead of 10 uF — may be required
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……. 7135 chip …. 7135 350 mA 7135 amp regulator used for low modes
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Quality
……………. Samples 100% as agreed and specified before continuation to actual sale.
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……………. Final production lights 100% as agreed, specified and samples
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……………. Video of drop test shipment packaging made available before lights available for sale.
…………………. This video shows at least 10 drops of the light in packaging from at least 1 meter high
…………………. falling in different angles, the 8 corners, bottom and side hitting the ground first

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…………….All lights tested before shipping to spot and fix problems and avoid DOA.
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Driver Design Notes
…..The 47K and 220K resistors are the voltage divider, where the 220K is R1, the 47K is R2
…..The 12K resistor is a FET gate resistor (on the trace from the MCU I/O pin to the FTE Gate,
……connected to ground.)
…..Diode is for reverse polarity protection
…..The SIR800DP FET is expensive, but can easily handle the high amps we get in driving 4 parallel LED’s but too hard to get hence FET now in place and asked about.
…….from 4 parallel cells, without any degradation or heat. It’s an extraordinary performing FET for it’s size

Information on Narsil, post 2
http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/922763#comment-922763
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space for driver 5.1 placement

Driver board 5,1 from http://budgetlightforum.com/comment/984682#comment-984682
Here goes new info on the version 5 of the driver we aim for.
Now isn’t this a thing of beauty?
After a lot of busy PMs Pilotdog68 has created V5 of the driverboard.
Special thanks to DEL for the help and scoping!
Reason for changing:

Version 5.1 board:

Oshpark link:
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/uK4XziVN

list of the parts to make the ideal driver for DIY
V5.1 Parts

MCU: Atmel ATTINY85V-10SH or ATTINY85-20SU (package is important: 8S2)

FET: Manu: Vishay Siliconix, PN: SIR800DP-T1-GE3, Digikey PN: SIR800DP-T1-GE3CT-ND), PPAK SO-8

7135: a 350 mA 7135 amp regulator used for low modes (not 380 mA)

R1: 220k, 1% or better, 0805

R2: 47k, 1% or better, 0805

R3: 100k, 5% or better, 0805

R4: 47 ohm, 5% or better, 0805

R5: not populated, for an SMD indicator LED, if used

R6: 4.7 ohm, 5% or better, 0805

D1: Schottky diode, to suit pads, ex: 10v 570 kA SOD323 (Manu PN: ZLLS410TA, Digi-Key PN: ZLLS410CT-ND)

C1: 10 uF, 20% or better, X5R or better, 0805

C2: 0.1 uF, 20% or better, X7R, 0805

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Cross section

At last, the outside of the head is almost good. Check the minor problem with the button not being integrated looking from the side.

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Some details showing a driver retainer ring, the LEDboard.

NOTE: the outer edges on for example the fins (left) now nice and smoothly rounded.

Yesterday the head of engineering department was very responsive.
They are going to correct the button.
Also the bezel was corrected closer to the result of the poll (though we will ask for a flatter one)

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not sure if this is the part that is going to be used NOW NOT!
Dual footprint, quad LED copper DTP LEDboard disussion started here
Thanks Texas Ace for yet even more great additon to BLF!

There are pads for thermisistors (for accurate thermal measurements) If it it not getting worked into Narsil now it still futureproofs the LEDboard
XML and XPL footprint, rotate 45 degrees for LEDs of another footprint. Does not add costs and greatly improves the mod friendlyness.
VERY NICE IDEA NOT USED IN ACTUAL Q8
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new part and again not sure if this is the part that is going to be used NOW NOT GOING TO BE USED!
After another round of debate for the tail PCB Texas Ace has made one.
he says it best:

Texas_Ace wrote:
Ok, hopefully this is the final update needed, I measured out a SRK tailcap and this board should work in most SRK’s. I uploaded it to Oshpark, like normal it includes the source files and images.

OSHpark Q8 Multi-cell setup tailcap

The Silk screen should be pretty clear. The spring pads are 10mm.

This is the tailcap for the Q8. It is also setup to fit SkyRay kings.

This is a universal tailcap PCB that allows for any cell setup you can think of from 1s4p, 2s2p, 4s1p.

It uses 1206 fuses or 0 ohm jumper resistors to select the cell configuration.

It also has a place for a clicky switch, although it would not work when using it in 2s or 4s mode due to needing the pivot point for the tailcap.

The hole spacing is:

20mm from spring pad to spring pad square

37.5mm Mounting holes diagonally

Center pivot hole is 4mm

1s4p = 4.2v : how it will come from the factory, only one side of the driver needs to have the components installed but both would be great.
2s2p = 8.4v : for XHP50 conversion
4s1p = 16.8v : for XHP35 conversion or running 4x XM-l or XP-L in series with separate stars.
Switch = For clicky switch usage

Battery spring side:

Tailcap side:

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Lets aim for at least 500 because that seems like a good number to get manufacterers interested.
Please discuss things and if you want to paticipate or just know you want one, say so.

The interest list:
1 The Miller
2 The Miller
3 Djozz
4 Mapache
5 Bc412
6 Easyrr
7 DavidEF?
8 Kusie
9 Kafar
10 Werner
11 goshdogit
12 goshdogit
13 Andyman?
14 bikenber73
15 Tarvos
16 mattlward
17 Kusie
18 Vattern
19 ImA4Wheelr
20 Muto
21 tzmxxhh
22 zelee
23 JPLight
24 thijsco19
25 Lazy-R-us
26 Mitko
27 Mitko
28 Tom E
29 Tom E
30 Minimoke
31 SciFiFreak
32 antiparanoico
33 lionheart_2281
34 mattlward
35 Calmaja
36 xjsnake
37 tekwyzrd
38 gamezawy
39 tru3s1lv3r
40 goshdogit
41 Wrathbringer27
42 MauiSon
43 tonylim
44 gungoat
45 SawMaster
46 JakeDjanitor
47 apt323
48 martook
49 bella-headlight
50 abril
51 Abqjohnny
52 slimkango
53 gangstead
54 pommie
55 patmurris
56 akoposilester
57 Tecmo
58 Kozy
59 theoldbill
60 Rufusbduck
61 shirnask
62 JayT
63 Chadvone
64 Lund1660
65 Evilc
66 MontyPyfon
67 archimedes
68 Dutcheee
69 WolfA
70 blueb8llz
71 Le_Zouave
72 lightmog
73 samnavy
74 downlinx
75 DrJones
76 puccio1969
77 mhanlen
78 fixed it
79 gpapa693
80 scs
81 jealous57
82 Martini
83 cmflippen
84 bigpix
85 Stittville Ed
86 Sarge930
87 flashination
88 dodo
89 muzzleblast?
90 The Last Katun
91 troisanh
92 Maiden666
93 Jinx
94 sp5it
95 jmpaul320
96 strango
97 TheMadcap
98 Crazyeddie
99 Kkelleher
100 Kkelleher
101 Kkelleher
102 Kkelleher
103 everydaysurvivalgear
104 Koaksijalac
105 Alcius
106 Gerrit
107 stanley-beamish
108 kommessy
109 emarkd
110 Agiri
111 RonMuller
112 Peho
113 malamask
114 Mstevens113
115 wunderhe
116 hunter1
117 Bastarrdo
118 Juanesdan
119 nqcken
120 goshdogit
121 goshdogit
122 Pegaso
123 KutKhemist
124 Charga
125 Wieselflinkpro
126 g_sintornillos
127 mi bill
128 Angel Martínez
129 Kozy
130 Legolas Jr.
131 Chicken Drumstick
132 tarver
133 vas
134 cwb
135 Dwantink
136 DBSAR
137 Crazyeddie
138 Meyer
139 Paul321
140 RobertB
141 saypat
142 southland
143 southland
144 southland
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146 cjoe7
147 Andybibbville
148 Far Thrower
149 pacbough
150 Ian2381
151 pawwright
152 DT101
153 Jesjes
154 Jesjes
155 AirBreaker
156 Wackyvegan
157 M78
158 MtnDon
159 jhullin
160 RaVeN
161 KoekieMonster
162 MCT
163 Nitetime
164 jdunlap27284
165 2Ace
166 NuggetMcNugget
167 Melven
168 kbro
169 DBSAR
170 Kodachrome40
171 Eivwer
172 Dregs
173 msg1285
174 KiwiKane
175 Keepitsharp
176 netprince
177 HighCaliber
178 HighCaliber
179 GTsuperheros
180 zara
181 h2o
182 zak.wilson
183 hein11ag
184 Joat
185 Roberrt777
186 2 DOGS
187 Jalben
188 djburkes
189 EyeballFryer
190 GreenShrike
191 sb56637
192 Mr.Poppy
193 osb40000
194 Kloepper Knife Works
195 Kloepper Knife Works
196 Kloepper Knife Works
197 Far Thrower
198 myst999
199 Rick
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204 Alkpwn77
205 Pukachi
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210 chooma
211 shimey
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217 Tete
218 allthumbs
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220 Hobo
221 slow2go
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223 Fredylee
224 jb1
225 maukka
226 haxquiz
227 shogan
228 jescereal
229 tarver
230 KawiBoy1428
231 lumiere
232 Bernard
233 robbobus
234 fonfan
235 The Burgh
236 leroycp
237 electricjelly
238 staticx57
239 Flashy Mike
240 tristanxoxo
241 nqcken
242 Muto
243 brightlights
244 Rob_K
245 Couchmaster
246 Lion42
247 Saigon
248 bmaddison
249 brted
250 cypherz
251 Mr.Scott
252 Gunnerboy
253 Aardvark Spleen
254 garrybunk
255 adrianlights
256 electricjelly
257 Sciencetists
258 hank
259 LAB
260 baldo21
261 baldo21
262 Bonham
263 JPM3
264 JPM3
265 dhsvcs
266 leroycp
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268 jmoots
269 stephenk
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271 scdaf
272 Killforfood
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274 dodo
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276 koyotee
277 Farns
278 aginthelaw
279 Sprinkles
280 walty
281 lightbulb
282 Freddy61069
283 rag
284 Shur
285 Trashman531
286 Hezekiah
287 Tmik
288 Pulsar13
289 gehrmo
290 g60
291 sol
292 sol
293 Batch1
294 ilovejesuschrist
295 ilovejesuschrist
296 scdaf
297 jhalb
298 rag
299 jmpaul320
300 ricardon
301 SeenTheLight
302 magnet
303 WillyD
304 T-boon
305 xed888
306 giorgoskok
307 fed893
308 Corzy
309 keengeorge
310 keengeorge
311 Peetz
312 BlindingL5s
313 MACS0647
314 mozart.f
315 Scooter000
316 downlinx
317 Fozzy-SP
318 Brian Metcalfe
319 Brian Metcalfe
320 ReManG
321 teacher
322 Dutcheee
323 Ricflair
324 firedome
325 MRsDNF
326 MRsDNF
327 Dusty
328 Dusty
329 scotlarock
330 pook
331 maildroid
332 NuggetMcNugget
333 Kepling
334 Scottland
335 alphazeta
336 gamezawy
337 M78
338 novice1
339 ToyKeeper
340 Hairy_Steve
341 Shadowfax
342 Frankie Baby
343 themaindude
344 Batch1
345 carmantl
346 carmantl
347 Docp723
348 ludolf
349 syracuse
350 M4D M4X
351 chooma
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353 MG
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366 nfetterly
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371 Tixx
374 Brian Metcalfe (via PM)
375 moemin
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380 tas69
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382 nofear87
383 GoldenBatt
384 gisewhcs
385 Kenjii
386 zipelgas
387 akhyar
388 cristhemuso
389 dudunphy
390 T18
391 Boaz
392 Mt.B
393 lawallac
394 lawallac
395 Phoenix_FIN
396 mxlu
397 Firelight2
398 aslpg
399 bd52
400 Kalchev
401 prisma
402 Aardvark Spleen
403 Aardvark Spleen
404 cloggy
405 e10sno
406 cpd800t
407 andrewmac
408 euphxenos
409 shimano3000
410 Flashy Mike
411 bella-headlight
412 bonfire
413 Speed4goal
414 vinte77
415 TheDude
416 ger-slash
417 Enelooper
418 Sullysat
419 ProtaBLF
420 WarHawk-AVG
421 WarHawk-AVG
422 ObiWan-Kenobi
423 ObiWan-Kenobi
424 Astromanic
425 Dimking
426 Illumenated
427 Lyubo Yanev
428 Lyubo Yanev
429 Lyubo Yanev
430 aim120
431 No Agenda
432 gleamer
433 Docp723
434 Docp723
435 steepdrop
436 rmkline
437 praveendk
438 MountainKing (when safe!)
439 Lund1660
440 Doctawho
441 Pablogy
442 rexdog
443 cabfrank
444 Caleb-v
445 MountainKing
446 basslovin808
447 BrianK
448 Flashy Mike
449 Flashy Mike
450 leroycp
451 leroycp
452 zeroair
453 Foston Pete
454 Foston Pete
455 geo1952
456 techieman33
457 geo1952 (via PM)
458 aggillator
460 weklund
461 J-Dub74
462 BobbyMK
463 John-Galt
464 AwkwardPause
465 Pidro
466 bogdanr
467 casi29061965
468 daninho
469 CheapThrills
470 meti
471 lightknot
472 Texas_Ace
473 Texas_Ace
474 spkzzz
475 marsalla
476 h2o
477 wkhchin81
478 dw911
479 clange50
480 clange50
481 ii_pennies
482 jmwhite151
483 torchjunkie
484 Fritz t. Cat
485 SamHaLeKe
486 devdvr
487 Crazyeddie
488 dentillozie
489 tapir
490 casi29061965
491 Van
492 lightknot
493 giorgoskok
494 smed1275
495 AlexGT
496 JohnnyMac ( the 500th entry considering the CPF list at 4 )
497 steepdrop
498 MtnDon
499 Ragsy
500 bawilson2 ( the 500th BLF entry )
501 bawilson2
502 hmihaylov
503 hexcode
504 brjones
505 strayz
506 tatasal
507 darrylo
508 Dogsrule
509 samis
510 Loneman
511 embee
512 jerrod
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514 freeme
515 rexdog
516 DBSS
517 coolriku
518 deathless
519 pooptoast
520 Theodore41
521 red72vw
522 The Jinx
523 alejandrov
524 narin000
525 kiriba-ru
526 spkzzz
527 Xandre
528 warzi1975
529 OdorlessCurves
530 OdorlessCurves
531 Gerrh
532 sandanbob
533 Wildthing
534 joe1512
535 fyesilova
536 Lyubo Yanev
537 Liber8
538 Guggga
539 vulpes
540 stareye
541 justanotherguy
542 k-wong
543 goshdogit
544 apt323
545 adirondackdestroyer
546 IH8MYX
547 Caleb the 555th entry
548 unknown00101
549 peteybaby
550 jkbam
551 Couchmaster
552 Couchmaster
553 blueb8llz
554 Wineslurper
555 Wineslurper the 555th BLF entry
556 goshdogit
557 PBWilson
558 PBWilson
559 dicksog
560 BrianK
561 finges
562 somnambulism
564 alternety
565 alternety
566 scarnific
567 atbglenn
568 Anthon
569 powerfultorches
570 raiko
571 BackpackNY
572 tinowrx
573 Noki
574 Nightshade
575 BorisBar
576 JonnyC
577 cnrffl1
578 KingSmono
579 nexrace1
580 Gj
581 Gj
582 Scooby
583 papaslightsaber
584 Magbrite
585 thebaum
586 presterjohn
587 wishiwereaskibum
588 gnatx
589 GoldenBatt
590 GoldenBatt
591 nickdude
592 headburger
593 Kurt_Norway
594 egrep
595 DOCFAR
596 Scorpia
597 torchjunkie
598 lightknot (second entry replacing losttheplot nr 471)
599 bamawthu
600 Mkduffer
601 green_comet
602 markalike
603 tigris99
604 Nickke
605 willmo
606 mrkelvin
607 bladesmith3
608 D10ten
609 getbully
610 Bungle88
611 sebastiang
612 schlockproof
613 Morpheus
614 Schkü
615 DarkerInSol (via PM)
616 DarkerInSol
617 DarkerInSol
618 DarkerInSol
619 Awkward Stretch (via PM)
620 Joe Darkness
621 Sonpham
622 mikeyx
624 mud_muncher
625 Ozythemandias
626 ZozzV6
627 maukka
628 khas
629 Flintrock
630 derpilgerer
631 qandeel
632 qandeel
633 joechina
634 Lumens Industry
635 jama
636 fantomR
637 Jerommel
638 Gilatabar
639 westcoastwonders
640 Kiukas
641 264
642 Sukoi
643 slickpenguin
644 Foston Pete
645 sac02
646 JPLight
647 Vagany
648 erikk365
649 Roter
650 Rska
651 rajun50
652 Flash Voyager
653 Presumptuous
654 Presumptuous
655 Presumptuous
656 MAD TM26
657 MAD TM26
658 olivedrab
659 driveX
660 Medvegy
661 Cano
662 BeardedRaleigh
663 Fatlight
664 Coolerness
665 xzel87
666 octav
667 Silentcropduster
668 vasa_visost
669 DeJaVu
670 pieman7
671 Box
672 hexcode
673 lachesis
674 tronx
675 J_R_J
676 strmix
677 Sledgestone
678 pirate joe 22
679 pirate joe 22
680 mudguts
681 Maxxsounds
682 Suncoaster (with the 18 CPF list this is entry 700 )
683 crx88ia
684 jpcuba
685 B42
686 B42
687 Dep668
688 Dep668
689 Muto
690 asot
691 Jvrthp321
692 slow2go
693 chadvone
694 leaftye
695 Tom_182
696 Lexel
697 5ar
698 Kindle
699 The Jinx
700 Light of Earendil ( BLF NR 700 )
701 Steenbhg
702 Alux
703 Zeratull
704 patchythepirate
705 ISO
706 raynman
707 Lfatman
708 rjorge
709 steel_1024
710 reliant_turbo
711 firedome
712 justanotherguy
713 DB Custom
714 mizjif
715 presterjohn
716 mudguts
717 JockRobbins
718 darkpenguin
719 darkpenguin
720 hunter1
721 hunter1
722 DB Custom
723 xtrosity
724 Oswald3211
725 fonLED
726 Martini
727 lamper
728 myst999
729 Trasnodel
730 vex_zg
731 Jensa41
732 Jensa41
733 shirnask
734 ISO
735 darkpenguin
736 darkpenguin
737 darkpenguin
738 darkpenguin
739 darkpenguin
740 a_idiot
741 chrisc
742 chrisc
743 Volks1973
744 YoFlash
745 Juggeli
746 Scotty
747 rfd673
748 caramba
749 cbrake10
750 Wieselflinkpro
751 jhullin
752 Bill 63
753 keithd
754 bigrick
755 saf99
756 joeangi
757 lightx
758 Stoneface
759 Hezekiah
760 miswas
761 datiLED
762 MorpheusT1
763 Bong lick
764 MortyDuck
765 rufrydr
766 RocketTomato
767 LloydV
768 Smittymojo
769 Mindaugass
770 goatfarmer
771 tmxod
772 lightlight22
773 xelario
774 eebowler
775 Bohemian
776 SolarLumen
777 ebosh *nice number here Wink *
778 Sprinkles
779 DBSS
780 Tom_182
781 velocraig
782 niktak11
783 pirate joe 22
784 pirate joe 22 2nd
785 Bluzie
786 MountainMan
787 MountainMan 2nd
788 Franz
789 treysoucie
790 FBsLights
791 wattstar
792 Zanders
793 jsmn4vu
794 MagPap
795 Cliwilnew
796 kahvitahra
797 Kentuckywindage
798 darol
799 kotobuki
800 dekozn BLF 800!
801 Antenne
802 tenohfive
803 bossf350
804 GIR
805 Desmo
806 Flifish48
807 thebaum
808 Lamont56
809 battletross
810 Nortson
811 gorb507
812 gorb507
813 dogany
814 Rsqweezy
815 Dirt
816 cheesecheeks
817 Navin_R_Johnson
818 GIR
819 SeenTheLight 2nd
820 TheHebrewHammer
821 TheHebrewHammer 2nd
822 stevez32
823 LEDtec
824 gnatx 2nd
825 cdjaney
826 retiro675 2nd
827 Wildcat
828 noob
829 Etex
830 DarthTader
831 luxlad
832 gboss
833 noob 2nd
834 Sofa
835 orinjuse
836 Kalihi
837 eb1888
838 eb1888 2nd
839 eb1888 3rd
840 piyoman
841 Sledgestone 2nd
842 Masejoer
843 metz3006
844 scootypuffjr
845 Hauwexis
846 Hauwexis
847 Hauwexis
848 Hauwexis
849 unit311
850 reliant_turbo 2nd
851 jmwhite151 2nd
852 jmwhite151
853 jmwhite151
854 slickpenguin 2nd
855 SmokinH
856 radb (PM)
857 Nicolaas
858 Micael
859 hideehoo
860 darkpenguin (8th)
861 darkpenguin (9th)
862 darkpenguin (10th)
863 AsylumSweep
864 Brettg4215
865 specialk
866 Rxich
867 Syncmasterklop
868 pukoid
869 wisefire
870 bwl123
871 litcrit
872 Kentuckywindage 2nd
873 Dr Forinor
874 Tom E 3rd
875 Tom E 4th
876 Abe87
877 bella-headlight
878 djburkes
879 rdoc613
880 GulfCoast
881 vwpieces
882 willmo 2nd
883 DrHook59
884 lanceb1b
885 slackwolf
886 slackwolf 2nd
887 doubleone44
888 oto
889 duvallite
890 igeigeige
891 Petroleum Lantern Guy
892 turbopscl
893 tebeve
894 CircaM
895 Swennie
896 Bill_tong
897 cclight
898 yclongthrow
899 yclongthrow
900 Lazy-R-us
901 Sprinkles 2nd
902 fedcas
903 Loneman 2nd
904 amplificus
905 Matchoo
906 ediaz
907 moridin
908 sac02 2nd
909 Creepo
910 aremihc
911 needmorlts
912 Jambo
913 brno602
914 Kulumatic
915 I_like_lamb
916 Shadowcactus
917 TurboLion
918 jfalk1
919 Majoroverkill
920 lightlight22
921 Arufonsi
922 gangstead 2nd
923 AEDe
924 peterlcole
925 Kysumi
926 san san
927 haxquiz
928 goshdogit nr 8 for his octaQ8/Q1000 Big Smile
929 ISO 3rd
930 ISO 4th
931 Herb Tarlek
932 a12luke
933 BLFD80
934 Dennis
935 neckbear
936 Gtt980
937 akovia
940 Tjohn
941 Tjohn
942 Tjohn
943 Tjohn
944 Tjohn
945 Wildcat
946 Nathan42
947 engber
948 Viamede
949 Billcheese5
950 BrianTheJay
951 Cjlee89
952 mandala
953 mandala
954 illusioned
955 johnpc
956 Cythras
957 Shoe
958 fluffman86
959 Nil
960 Nil
961 Simplelight
962 Simplelight
964 mcfarlie6996
965 mcfarlie6996
966 Johnhywash1
967 Gunnerboy 2nd
968 dotBLF
969 Romey310
970 Romey310
971 dumptruck
972 laststance
973 cypher1024
974 R.D.
975 Minimoke
976 martytown NUMBER 1000 on the lists on BLF and CPF WOW
977 Deep skull
978 Lilien
979 MauiSon
980 Sledge
981 lovetheguitar
982 7pot
983 amplificus 2nd
984 amplificus 3rd
985 Sledge 2nd
986 Sledge 3rd
987 Nathan42 2nd
988 cabfrank
989 ikaruz_500
990 Funzel67
991 clagged
992 KeepingItLight
993 hurleyy
994 heatwaves
995 Esskay
994 Hestbech
995 Hestbech
996 websterjody
997 DB Custom 3rd
998 Stittville Ed 2nd
999 Rat_Racer
1000 slackwolf 3rd 1000th
1001 Nite Shadow
1002 Tunerman
1003 Subterrestrial
1004 timcodes
1005 k-wong 2nd
1006 yasenf
1007 M78 2nd
1008 regaia
1009 jycheang
1010 Sukoi 2nd
1011 tungkon
1012 lyse99
1013 banker
1014 mrstealyourgains
1015 Dralf
1016 steve42
1017 timcodes 2nd
1018 BDM
1019 B42 3rd
1020 B42 4th
1021 Joey Adams
1022 jingleberry
1023 fonfan 2nd
1024 fonfan 3rd
1025 noob 2nd
1026 davidkappelt
1027 gravelmonkey
1028 cavorite
1029 korpzgrinda
1030 foton
1031 Snoballz
1032 sochi111
1033 kaybi
1034 Jailbrake
1035 Jtm94
1036 nanojack
1037 PabloVerde
1038 geepaw
1039 Bam35
1040 lightlight22 3rd
1041 dave101
1042 Lowtech
1043 james y
1044 james y
1045 Dirty_Pierre
1046 fishlite5
1047 iwandutchy
1048 jaynick
1049 bhuge00
1050 FreeMagenta
1051 Mecallie
1052 b1i1l1l1y1
1053 TheJo
1054 darrenm
1055 darrenm
1056 The Grand Pooh-Bah
1057 The Grand Pooh-Bah
1058 Dobtruckers
1059 tindrum42
1060 tindrum42
1061 josephqool
1062 davos
1063 ×73rmin8r
1064 Andmiller
1065 Andmiller
1066 turpulator
1067 bkling
1068 Ford Prefect
1069 Lopan
1070 tristanxoxo
1071 Hardware
1072 Jonandreadolan
1073 kntx
1074 fuzun
1075 Bong lick 2nd
1076 wilwok 2nd
1077 Mr.Scott 2nd
1078 JordanZHP
1079 Wieselflinkpro 3rd
1080 justanotherguy 3rd
1081 Mindaugass 2nd
1082 johny723
1083 Speedsix
1084 BackpackNY
1085 scotlarock 2nd
1086 Bevo
1087 BT100
1088 legan710
1089 ARMS.AARON
1090 Jailbrake
1091 wildmermaid
1092 giorgoskok 3rd
1093 Night Light
1094 themaindude 2nd
1095 themaindude 3rd
1096 Flifish48 2nd
1097 fixed it 2nd
1098 borealis
1099 Autoclave
1100 ManWithoutShadow
1101 Yourrid
1102 Yourrid 2nd
1103 leaftye
1104 Eggun
1105 websterjody 2nd
1106 knudsengj
1107 toxiccoccyx
1108 jacktheclipper
1109 SFB
1110 mrheosuper
1111 akoposilester 2nd
1112 akoposilester 3rd
1113 cnrffl1 2nd
1114 Miguel_79
1115 djozz 2nd
1116 kntx 2nd
1117 Ragsy 2nd
1118 reno
1119 2Ace 2nd
1120 blueb8llz 3rd
1121 blueb8llz 4th
1122 blueb8llz 5th
1123 blueb8llz 6th
1124 charles lin
1125 papaslightsaber 2nd
1126 papaslightsaber 3rd
1127 Stoneface 2nd
1128 davidvns
1129 Miguel_79 2nd
1130 san san 2nd
1131 san san 3rd
1132 Joey Adams 2nd
1133 korpzgrinda 2nd
1134 teacher 2nd
1135 TheOnlyDocc
1136 nskn71
1137 petr9999
1138 BT100 2nd
1139 slow2go 3rd
1140 slow2go 4th
1141 slow2go 5th
1142 Smittymojo 2nd
1143 kotobuki 2nd
1144 kotobuki 3rd
1145 Lumenmaster17
1146 Lumenmaster17 2nd
1147 Lumenmaster17 3rd
1148 Khuan (PM)
1149 Prometheus
1150 ERDOS
1151 Cano 2nd
1152 TRoPHeuS
1153 plntigrado
1154 javipiloto
1155 perche 2nd
1156 dbesselt
1157 archi
1158 pepinfaxera
1159 alex64
1160 aprendiz
1161 Dadpool
1162 luisgcan
1163 Gerrh
1164 Gerrh
1165 trevize
1167 lalomt
1168 Orionz23
1169 Abqjohnny 2nd
1170 Nord
1171 lamper 2nd
1172 Frank A.
1173 RockHugger
1174 bikedave99
1175 Miguelintegral
1176 Vanq86
1177 thecrc
1178 spade413
1179 Buzzy243
1180 Rpdos
1181 MyDangus
1182 FmC
1183 leaftye 3rd
1184 leaftye 4th
1185 matkovicha
1186 dezoe
1187 srs2000
1188 sparkyDK
1189 kntx 3rd
1190 Silent_Star
1191 cujo255
1192 xray291
1193 Lowtech 2nd
1194 feralcomprehension
1195 ant0
1196 JordanZHP 2nd
1197 XXX-Man
1198 Ulric
1199 gds95
1200 Hardware 2nd 1200 BLFlist wow
1201 sp5it 2nd
1202 Valdorg
1203 nitrader0
1204 ElginAgain 2nd
1205 Steenbhg 2nd
1206 Steenbhg 3rd
1207 slimkango 2nd
1208 AppA
1209 blinky
1210 MBuitendorp
1211 Keisari
1212 Keisari 2nd
1213 t3rminal
1214 Jayzed
1215 sac02 3rd
1216 sac02 4th
1217 kali stupa
1218 Stevejj
1219 knightstalker
1220 ryukin2000
1221 Awdtsi
1222 Savydude
1223 Tom E 5th
1224 Tom E 6th
1225 FlashMax
1226 clinicdoc
1227 johnnydoe
1228 ARsee
1229 ARsee 2nd
1230 churchilllafemme
1231 jurasik1
1232 yasenf 2nd
1233 yasenf 3rd
1234 Farmboy24 ( heheh funny number on this BLF list )
1235 myowin 2nd
1236 Marothar
1237 derfyled
1238 BorisBar 2nd
1239 SebaZ74
1240 SebaZ74 2nd
1241 Toccata
1242 The Imp
1243 zifzif
1244 BDWrabbit
1245 Yokiamy
1246 Streamer
1247 Mr.Poppy 2nd
1248 Dradge
1249 Lazy-R-us 3rd
1250 Lazy-R-us 4th
1251 zoysiamo
1252 donpachi
1253 Ilmatic
1254 DiscoJoe
1255 manithree
1256 longmire
1257 T18
1258 wilwok
1259 Erethryn
1260 chinooker
1261 aprendiz 2nd
1262 fcrespi
1263 getbully
1264 fixvid
1265 heatwaves 2nd
1266 myst999 3rd
1267 myst999 4th
1268 Steenbhg 4th
1269 Wyre
1270 Manulous
1271 bobdotorg
1272 bobdotorg 2nd
1273 yasenf 2nd
1274 yasenf 3rd
1275 OrangePeel
1276 Cawi
1277 Nguyen
1278 slow2go 3rd
1279 slow2go 4th
1280 slow2go 5th
1281 DBSAR 2nd
1282 Kodachrome40
1283 mlodyulek
1284 RotorHead64
1285 Gerrh 2nd
1286 djozz 3rd
1287 Lexel 2nd
1288 OrangePeel 2nd
1289 SteveMidwest
1290 OscarM
1291 solRNY
1292 lichtpfadfinder
1293 Nguyen 2nd
1294 dmbaty
1295 Fadetoblack
1296 Bill 63 2nd
1297 zachary6227
1298 krutone
1299 ManWithoutShadow
1300 Guns712
1301 Guns712 2nd
1302 Captainvideo
1303 mitrhandir
1304 doxerino
1305 pepe2017
1306 blinker
1307 Neilyboy
1308 Mr.Poppy 3rd
1309 gedasd
1310 ChibiM
1311 feralcomprehension
1312 Eggun 2nd
1313 bobofire
1314 xCentrino
1315 Kazik
1316 guerrilla154
1317 tracerfire
1318 e10sno 2nd
1319 e10sno 3rd

1320 Litefighter
1321 ChibiM 2nd
1322 Stephen Elliott
1323 digitaltc
1324 Matomoto
1325 Wojto
1326 Sledge 4th
1327 asnidi2
1328 lightlight22 4th
1329 Fredylee
1330 starcrazed
1331 KFulton
1332 Ilmatic 2nd
1333 WestBam
1334 Litefighter 2nd
1335 Litefighter 3rd
1336 dhsvcs 2nd
1337 dhsvcs 3rd
1338 bionictony
1339 dafarui
1340 KIKY
1341 balazs1956
1342 GlinnDamar
1343 mutts13
1344 SoCalTiger
1345 Ag76
1346 RapidLux
1347 patmet
1348 mutts13
1349 nnmnu1
1350 BlackList
1351 contigo
1352 The_Driver
1353 blinker 2nd
1354 whitecitadel
1355 patmurris 2nd heheh 1300in between first and second Smile
1356 BrianK 3rd
1357 ohnonothimagain
1358 xCentrino 2nd
1359 redrider706

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(post #7902)

List on CPF
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TOTAL 1376

mass PM groups: thanks Lazy-R-us
1
Djozz, Mapache, Bc412, Easyrr, DavidEF, Kusie, Kafar, Werner, goshdogit, Andyman
2
bikenber73, Tarvos, mattlward, Vattern, ImA4Wheelr, Muto, tzmxxhh, zelee, JPLight, thijsco19
3
Lazy-R-us, Mitko, Tom E, Minimoke, SciFiFreak, antiparanoico, lionheart_2281, Calmaja, xjsnake, tekwyzrd
4
gamezawy, tru3s1lv3r, Wrathbringer27, MauiSon, tonylim, gungoat, SawMaster, JakeDjanitor, apt323, martook
5
bella-headlight, abril, Abqjohnny, slimkango, gangstead, pommie, patmurris, akoposilester, Tecmo, Kozy
6
theoldbill, Rufusbduck, shirnask, JayT, Chadvone, Lund1660, Evilc, MontyPyfon, archimedes, Dutcheee
7
WolfA, blueb8llz, Le_Zouave, lightmog, samnavy, downlinx, DrJones, puccio1969, mhanlen, fixed it
8
gpapa693, scs, jealous57, Martini, cmflippen, bigpix, Stittville Ed, Sarge930, flashination, dodo
9
muzzleblast, The Last Katun, troisanh, Maiden666, Jinx, sp5it, jmpaul320, strango, TheMadcap, Crazyeddie
10
Kkelleher, everydaysurvivalgear, Koaksijalac, Alcius, Gerrit, stanley-beamish, kommessy, emarkd, Agiri, RonMuller
11
Peho, malamask, Mstevens113, wunderhe, hunter1, Bastarrdo, Juanesdan, nqcken, Pegaso, KutKhemist
12
Charga, Wieselflinkpro, g_sintornillos, mi bill, Angel Martínez, Legolas Jr., Chicken Drumstick, tarver, vas, cwb
13
Dwantink, DBSAR, Meyer, Paul321, RobertB, saypat, southland, cjoe7, Andybibbville, Far Thrower
14
pacbough, Ian2381, pawwright, DT101, Jesjes, AirBreaker, Wackyvegan, M78, MtnDon, jhullin
15
RaVeN, KoekieMonster, MCT, Nitetime, jdunlap27284, 2Ace, NuggetMcNugget, Melven, kbro, Kodachrome40
16
Eivwer, Dregs, msg1285, KiwiKane, Keepitsharp, netprince, HighCaliber, GTsuperheros, zara, h2o
17
zak.wilson, hein11ag, Joat, Roberrt777, 2 DOGS, Jalben, djburkes, EyeballFryer, GreenShrike, sb56637
18
Mr.Poppy, osb40000, Kloepper Knife Works, myst999, Rick, trevglas, tomtaylor, bakalakos, Caleb, Alkpwn77
19
Pukachi, Sgtpev, peabody, VaKo, fireblade893, chooma, shimey, Randolph, myowin, gregor
20
JS721, Tete, allthumbs, juaquin, Hobo, slow2go, Fredylee, jb1, maukka, haxquiz
21
shogan, jescereal, KawiBoy1428, lumiere, Bernard, robbobus, fonfan, The Burgh, leroycp, electricjelly
22
staticx57, Flashy Mike, tristanxoxo, brightlights, Rob_K, Couchmaster, Lion42, Saigon, bmaddison, brted
23
cypherz, Mr.Scott, Gunnerboy, Aardvark Spleen, garrybunk, adrianlights, Sciencetists, hank, LAB, baldo21
24
Bonham, JPM3, dhsvcs, jmoots, stephenk, Nicolicous, scdaf, Killforfood, Tjhosan, MechEngVictor
25
koyotee, Farns, aginthelaw, Sprinkles, walty, lightbulb, Freddy61069, rag, Shur, Trashman531
26
Hezekiah, Tmik, Pulsar13, gehrmo, g60, sol, Batch1, ilovejesuschrist, jhalb, ricardon
27
SeenTheLight, magnet, WillyD, T-boon, xed888, giorgoskok, fed893, Corzy, keengeorge, Peetz
28
BlindingL5s, MACS0647, mozart.f, Scooter000, Fozzy-SP, Brian Metcalfe, ReManG, teacher, Ricflair, firedome
29
MRsDNF, Dusty, scotlarock, pook, maildroid, Kepling, Scottland, alphazeta, novice1, ToyKeeper
30
Hairy_Steve, Shadowfax, Frankie Baby, themaindude, carmantl, Docp723, ludolf, syracuse, M4D M4X, retiro675
31
MG, Sharpie, KenE, jack-bkk, uqs1000, Atom00, Boro, nfetterly, cocoschnauzer, Primal
32
albertopnp, CJW, SIGShooter, NightLight, Bogdan, CrashOne, Tixx, moemin, pscal, tas69
33
Duke, nofear87, GoldenBatt, gisewhcs, Kenjii, zipelgas, akhyar, cristhemuso, dudunphy, T18
34
Boaz, Mt.B, lawallac, Phoenix_FIN, mxlu, Firelight2, aslpg, bd52, Kalchev, prisma
35
cloggy, e10sno, cpd800t, andrewmac, euphxenos, shimano3000, bonfire, Speed4goal, vinte77, TheDude
36
ger-slash, Enelooper, Sullysat, ProtaBLF, WarHawk-AVG, ObiWan-Kenobi, Astromanic, Dimking, Illumenated, Lyubo Yanev
37
aim120, No Agenda, gleamer, steepdrop, rmkline, praveendk, MountainKing, Doctawho, Pablogy, rexdog
38
cabfrank, Caleb-v, basslovin808, BrianK, zeroair, Foston Pete, techieman33, geo1952, aggillator, weklund
39
J-Dub74, BobbyMK, John-Galt, AwkwardPause, Pidro, bogdanr, casi29061965, daninho, CheapThrills, meti
40
lightknot, Texas_Ace, spkzzz, marsalla, wkhchin81, dw911, clange50, ii_pennies, jmwhite151, torchjunkie
41
Fritz t. Cat, SamHaLeKe, devdvr, dentillozie, tapir, Van, smed1275, AlexGT, JohnnyMac, Ragsy
42
bawilson2, hmihaylov, hexcode, brjones, strayz, tatasal, darrylo, Dogsrule, samis, Loneman
43
embee, jerrod, Bruno28, freeme, DBSS, coolriku, deathless, pooptoast, Theodore41, red72vw
44
The Jinx, alejandrov, narin000, kiriba-ru, Xandre, warzi1975, OdorlessCurves, Gerrh, sandanbob, Wildthing
45
joe1512, fyesilova, Liber8, Guggga, vulpes, stareye, justanotherguy, k-wong, adirondackdestroyer, IH8MYX
46
unknown00101, peteybaby, jkbam, Wineslurper, PBWilson, dicksog, finges, somnambulism, alternety, scarnific
47
atbglenn, Anthon, powerfultorches, raiko, BackpackNY, tinowrx, Noki, Nightshade, BorisBar, JonnyC
48
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Litefighter, 2-10

Change list from original OP design ideas:
Integrated LED shelf instead of screw in copper/brass
Lockout via side switch instead of adding a new to b designed tail switch
Added low voltage cut off
Added AR coated lens
Removed AR coated lens because of tint shift.
Added DTP to stars.
Removed Quality lanyard
Added Cree XPL HI as possible LEDs
Added Nut to attach tripod negotiable
Added charging system like BD0x negotiable
12 April Refreshed specs and features, easier to read, corrected some spelling errors
Changed bezel to black bezel
Added Reflector height, diameter and support rim as the current SRK reflectors
Added Head internals support rim of the reflector
This ensures compability with the SRK reflectors so owners can mod the Q8 to use from 3 up to 10 emitters with a SRK reflector that is widely avalable.
Added Parallel max 4 cell configuration (to use 1, 2, 3 and/or 4 cells)
Added Able to take the largest of protected button top 18650 cells
Changed spring configuration to Double springs with the smaller being a Phosphor Bronze spring
Added 18 AWG Wires
Changed wires to 20 AWG, thik enough and easier to adapt reflector base and installation
Added Wires to led not through center of integrated shelf but the sides of it
Changed specslist to look more like a spreadsheet, hopefully this reads easier
Changed 20 AWG wires instead of 18, this should be thick enough
Added Light comes with spare o-rings in all the sizes used.
Changed drops from 2 meter to 1 meter
Added about droptest falling in different angles, the 8 corners, bottom and side hitting the ground first
Changed LEDs chosen emitter XPL Neutral white
Added Pilotdog68 driver design to team.
Added Thijsco CAD analist to team
changed 12K resistor to 47K
Removed Wires to led not through center of integrated shelf but the sides of it after wire specs, how wires run depending on DTP stars design (1 big LED board for all LEDs or 4 small stars for each LED 1 star)

CLOSED POLLS SECTION

POLL about bezel now closed:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46999
Again, thanks for participation, nr 1 and 2 will be presented to Thorfire.

Poll for logo/marking now closed
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46220
Thanks for voting, style is decided by the community!

community feeler number of LEDs:
http://budgetlightforum.com/node/46433
Thanks for voting!

Edited by: The Miller on 05/26/2017 - 06:26
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[quote=Tom E]
You can find the Atmel VS 7.0 source code, binaries, AVRDude batch files, some revision history notes, and the manual in docx and PDF format here on the “BLF Q8” shared google drive folder.

Narsil manual translated to Traditional Chinese by steel_1024, thanks!

BLF Q8 Narsil Operation操作手冊
2017-04-04 T.E. – Narsil v1.3 (manual v1.3a)

使用者介面的設計要求是操作簡單快捷,同時具備許多先進的功能來滿足創新的需求,也讓使用者可以根據自己的操作喜好來設定手電筒。這些模式都已經永久儲存到電筒裡面。初次使用可選擇無級調光或檔位組模式,開機預設使用無級調光模式。 功能概述 無級調光功能:150階不同亮度,順暢的銜接。點按一次:開機,進入上次關機前使用的亮度(記憶);再點按一下:關機。在開機狀態下,長按開關進行無級調光,使用一個亮度超過1.2秒後,再次長按無級調光會保持原來的調光(調亮或調暗)方向,反之會切換調光方向。 檔位組:快捷進入最低和最亮的檔位,再點按一次關閉。 12組檔位組可選,每組分別有1-8個檔位,包括可以選月光檔位。 月光檔位亮度可進行設定,檔位組合之檔位可以設定從低亮到高亮,也可設定從高亮到低亮。 多種頻閃和信號檔位:總共有5檔位(16Hz頻閃,警用頻閃,自行車頻閃,2秒信號閃,10秒信號閃) 低電壓保護(LVP)功能:電壓約3.2V時,會降低亮度,電壓降至3.0V時手電筒關閉,兩種情況都伴隨有閃燈警示。 定時降檔和高溫降檔功能可開啟或關閉(對無級調光模式下高亮度檔的情況也同樣適用) 當接通電源後,手電筒發出兩次慢閃提示已準備工作。 側按開關上的LED提示燈(SMD LED)可以方便在黑暗中定位和電量不足提示 電池及溫度檢查功能:閃爍顯示電壓和溫度(以°C為單位)(例如3.7V閃爍三次後、暫停,再閃爍7次)。 側按鍵鎖定功能:通過特殊順序連續點按側鍵開關可啟用或停用。 安全鎖定功能:長按側鍵開關20後秒啟動安全鎖定功能。

設定概述
1. 可設定開機使用無級調光或檔位組模式
2. 可以設定使用12個檔位組,每組1-7級檔位亮度(加上月光檔則為8檔)
3. 月光模式可選擇開啟或關閉,且亮度可以調整
4. 亮度變化順序可以設定,預設為從低亮到高亮,也可設定為從高亮到低亮
5. (關機)檔位記憶功能可開啟或關閉
6. Turbo定時降檔可開啟或關閉,啟動降檔的時間可設置範圍為30秒至10分鐘
7. 開關上的LED提示燈可開啟或關閉(便於在光線昏暗時尋找手電筒)
8. 月光模式的亮度有1-7級亮度可選(建議第3級亮度,2也可以,4,7會更亮)
9. 可設定提示燈閃爍的電池電壓值,和選擇LED提示燈和LED主燈同時閃爍,或僅LED提示燈閃爍。
10. LED提示燈可開啟或關閉:沒有電源接入時關閉(尾按關閉時)或全面關閉。
11. 針對同時有尾部按鍵電筒,可開啟或關閉換擋記憶功能。不需要OTC (Off Time Cap)電容(定時臨界值電容),但可能並非對所有硬體設計都有用。
無級調光操作
關機狀態下,長按側鍵開關,到月光檔位亮度時放開。再點按一下:開機,進入上次關機前記憶的亮度檔位。
開機狀態後,長按側鍵,無級調光會漸亮或漸暗,除非保持當前亮度超過1.2秒,否則會切換調光方向(漸亮或漸暗)。點按一下:關機。
關機或開機狀態下,點按兩下側鍵可開啟最高亮度Turbo(最高亮度不會覆蓋記憶的亮度)。
關機或開機狀態下,連續三次點按,啟動電量檢查。
關機或開機狀態下,連續四次點按,鎖定手電筒。
在最高亮度下,點按兩下側鍵,開啟第一種閃光燈模式。
在閃光模式下,不暫停的點按側鍵,則順序跳到下一特殊(閃爍或信號閃)檔位。特殊閃爍模式的切換跟普通模式的一樣,長按側鍵可回到上一個模式,停留1.2秒鎖定當前模式。
在電量檢查模式下,點按兩下側鍵,閃爍顯示攝氏度溫度,再次按兩下,閃爍顯示韌體版本(例如:V1.3版本就閃1次暫停之後再閃3次)
檔位組設定操作
在關機狀態下,點按側鍵,第1檔位亮,長按1-3(1/3?)秒切換到上(?最後?)一檔位。?
在開機狀態下,點按側鍵,進入下一檔位,長按側鍵回到上一檔。
如果停在某一檔位(超過1.2秒),就會鎖定當前檔位,再點按側鍵,將關閉手電筒。
若鎖定在某一檔位亮度,長按側鍵會切換到上一檔位,並且解除鎖定。
在任何檔位下,包括在關機狀態下,長按(超過1.1秒)側鍵將開啟第一個閃爍模式(一共有5檔位:16Hz頻閃,警用頻閃,自行車頻閃,兩秒信號閃,10秒信號閃)。
在閃爍模式下,不暫停的點按側鍵,跳轉至下一檔特殊檔位(閃爍或信號閃)。特殊閃爍檔位的切換跟普通模式的一樣,長按回到上一個檔位,停留1.2秒鎖定當前檔位。
LVP低壓保護功能 開機狀態下,電池電壓低於3.2V時,電筒會慢閃3次,之後便降低一個亮度檔位,如此反復,直到降至最低亮度檔。如果已是最低亮度檔,且電壓繼續降到3.0V或3.0V以下時,電筒慢閃8次,然後關閉手電筒。 如果開啟了(開關上的)LED提示燈功能,在開機狀態下,每次降低亮度檔位時,提示燈都會閃爍3次,且每8秒閃爍2次。低電壓關機後,提示燈仍會繼續每8秒閃爍2次,持續6分鐘,然後進入省電模式。在進入省電模式前,若電池電壓低於3.2V,LED提示燈會關閉。 注意:如果達到3.2V的臨界值,且電流下降,電池會回升一些電壓,所以在下次降檔前,手電筒還能維持一段時間的當前亮度。如果你的其中一顆電池電壓低於3.2V,其他電池的電壓值將一個接一個地下降,每五秒重複下降一次。

電量檢查 在關機狀態、使用檔位組模式的情況下啟動電量檢查:點按一下後快速長按2.5秒。使用無級調光模式的情況下點按3次啟動電量檢查。提示燈將持續閃爍表明電壓值。例如:電池電壓讀數為3.7V,提示燈將閃爍三次,短暫停頓後,再閃爍7次。這種閃爍方式將一直持續到再點按一下側鍵結束電量檢查。也可以再點按兩次側鍵,變成持續的一種信號模式。

鎖定功能 手電筒放口袋、包裡、保護套裡時有可能會誤按到側鍵開關而意外開啟電筒。為避免這個問題,有時可鬆開尾蓋來斷開電池連接。如果是不能鬆開尾蓋的電筒、或考慮避免對電筒的磨損時,可按照下面的操作,按照特殊順序的按鍵,來對手電筒進行鎖定:
無級調光模式下的操作:在關機或開機狀態下,快速點按4次側鍵。手電筒將快速閃爍4次確認鎖定功能已開啟,這時側鍵的正常操作就失效了。
檔位組模式下的操作:在關機狀態下,先點按兩下再快速長按側鍵,手電筒將快速閃爍4次,表示鎖定功能已開啟,這時側鍵的正常操作就失效了。如果你看到的不是快速閃爍4次,而是頻閃,那就表示鎖定失敗(可能你按的太慢)。
按照鎖定按鍵順序進行同樣的操作,可恢復側鍵的正常操作,出現4次快速閃爍確認操作成功。
在無級調光模式和檔位組模式下,都可以長按側鍵20秒來啟動鎖定。這是手電筒被卡住時的安全預防措施,不過還是可以手動啟動。
(開關上的) LED提示燈
LED提示燈開啟時,具備以下用途:
在光線暗時方便尋找手電筒(定位功能)
閃爍顯示電池電量和溫度
電筒LED主燈閃爍時作為輔助閃爍提示燈
無級調光模式下,當你調整到新的亮度檔時,LED提示燈將閃爍一次,表示僅僅7135被啟動(較低的亮度檔,在180流明下照明效率高),或閃爍兩次表明FET(直接驅動)被啟動。
定位功能開啟時,LED提示燈可暫時關閉。
在關機狀態、無級調光模式下:長按側鍵,儘快開啟月光檔後,快速點按一次來關閉,提示燈/定位LED燈將關閉。
在關機狀態、檔位組模式下:點按一下後快速長按至主LED燈熄滅後關閉。如需再切換至開啟LED提示燈,重複同樣的步驟(關機狀態下快速點按一下後長按)。
注意:手電筒被鎖定時,提示燈功能將關閉。
檔位組定義

使用者選項設定 無級調光模式下,長按側鍵8秒;檔位組模式下,長按側鍵2.5秒啟動選項設定。手電筒快速閃爍2次,然後慢速閃爍1次,表示使用者選項設定開啟。見下表,你可以修改或保留如下表顯示的任何一個選項,並不需要一一去設定。點按側鍵選擇要設定的選項數值,且每一次點按,手電筒都會閃爍以確認點按成功。如果你關閉了無級調光,便直接進入第2項檔位設定,反之亦然。如果在3.2秒內沒有點按側鍵,手電筒將有2次快速閃爍和(X)次慢速閃爍,提示將切換至下一個選項,慢閃的次數(X)提示你在第幾選項(比如3次慢閃表示第3選項)。你可以通過長按側鍵跳轉到下一選項設定,不用等3.2秒。如果你繼續長按,將會退出整個使用者介面設置,4個快閃提示成功退出。 進入高溫降檔選項,LED主燈會進入最高輸出,如果你在5秒內點按一下側鍵,設定溫度不變,如果超過5秒,當前溫度讀數將保存為最新的高溫降檔臨界值,確保你設置的數值適當,數值應該是手電筒可以手握的溫度,或甚至更燙。出廠設置溫度是52攝氏度,但是校正值將根據不同設備有所不同。 開啟超時(計時)降檔後,提示燈將閃爍,提示進入時間設置,如下所述點擊1-7次來設定。
無級調光模式選項設定

檔位組模式選項設定

進階使用者選項設定
在電量檢查模式下長按至少1.1秒後可啟動進階使用者選項設定。電量檢查將中斷,手電筒將快速閃爍2次,慢速閃爍(X)次顯示已啟動的進階使用者選項。如下,有3種設定,操作和主要使用者選項設定的相同。

Narsil info in Chinese, translated by Barry (Thorfire)
2017-04-04 T.E. – Narsil v1.3 (manual v1.3a)
The user interface’s design goal is to be fast and simple, but with many advanced features to support the latest innovations, and allow the user to configure the light’s operation to his/her liking. The configuration settings are stored permanently. There are two choices for primary use: Ramping or Mode Sets, Ramping is defaulted.
用户界面的设计要求是操作简单快捷,同时具备诸多超前的功能来满足最新的创新需求,也让用户能根据自己的操作喜好来设定手电筒。这些模式都已经永久烧录到了电筒里面。初次使用可选择无级调光或档位组,开机默认的是无极调光。
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Summary of Features功能概述

Ramping – smooth 150 level ramping, simple click&hold ramps, 1 click ON to last level, 1 click OFF, direction of ramping will toggle unless you remain at a level more than 1.2 seconds
无级调光功能——150种不同亮度衔接顺畅,单击开机记忆上次使用的亮度,再次单击关机。开机状态,长按开关进行无级调光,使用一个亮度超过1.2秒,再无级调光会保持原来的调光方向,反之会改变调光方向。
Mode Sets – quick access to lowest and highest modes, 1 click OFF
档位组——快捷进入最低和最亮的档位,再按一次关闭。
12 mode sets to choose from, 1 to 8 modes per set including optional moon mode
12组档位组可选,每组分别有1-8个档位的,包括月光模式(可选)。
Moon mode level can be set, modes can be arranged for low to hi, or hi to low
月光模式可进行设置,档位可以从低到高,也可从高到低。
Multiple strobe and beacon modes can be accessed, total of 5 special modes (16 Hz strobe, police strobe, bike strobe, 2 sec beacon, and 10 sec beacon)
多种闪灯模式和信号灯模式——共5档特殊闪灯(16Hz闪,警用闪,自行车闪,2秒信号闪,10秒信号闪)
Low Voltage Protection (LVP) – output is decreased starting at ~3.2V, shut off at ~3.0V, both with blink warnings
低压保护(LVP)功能——电压约3.2V时,会降低亮度,电压降至3.0V时手电筒关闭,两种情况都伴随有闪灯警示。
Timed or Thermal stepdown can be selected or disabled (works for high output levels in Ramping too)
超时降档和高温降档功能可开启或关闭(对无极调光模式下高亮度的情况也同样适用)
When power is applied, 2 blinks indicate it’s ready
开机后,两次慢闪提示手电筒已准备工作。
An Indicator LED (SMD LED) is supported as a locator LED and low voltage indicator
LED指示灯(SMD LED)——被用作黑暗中定位和电量不足提示
Battery and Temperature Check – blink out voltage and temp in C (ex: 3.7V would be 3 blinks, pause, then 7 blinks)
电池及温度查看功能——闪烁显示电压和温度(以°C为单位)数值(超过3.7V闪烁三次,后暂停,后再闪烁7次)。
Lock-out feature for the side switch – enabled and disable by a special click sequence
侧键锁定功能——通过特殊顺序连击电子侧键可启用或停用侧边按键。
20 second button press safety lock-out feature (engages lock-out after 20 secs being held)
安全锁定功能——长按电子侧键20秒启动安全锁定功能(长按20秒后启动锁定)
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Configuration Settings Summary参数设定概述

1. Primary mode setting of Ramping or Mode Set
1. 无极调光或档位组的开机模式
2. 12 sets of modes to choose from with 1 to 7 output levels
2. 12个档位,1-7级亮度
3. Moonlight mode can be optionally added (enable/disable), and the moon output level custom set
3. 月光模式可选择性开启或关闭,且亮度可调
4. Set the mode order, default is low to hi, hi to low can be enabled
4. 亮度变化顺序可以设置,默认设置为从低亮度到高亮度,可设置成从高亮度到低亮度
5. Enable or disable mode memory
5. 模式记忆功能可开启或关闭
6. Enable/disable turbo timeout and sets the length of time from 30 secs to 10 minutes
6. 超时降档可开启或关闭,启动降档的时间可设置范围为30秒至10分钟。
7. Enable/disable the Locator LED feature (locate the flashlight in the dark)
7. LED指示灯可开启或关闭(便于在光线昏暗时寻找手电筒)
8. Set the moon mode brightness from 1-7 (3 is recommended, but 2 may work, and 4-7 used to make it brighter)
8. 月光模式的亮度有1-7LM可选(建议3LM,2LM也可以,4-7LM会更亮)
9. Configure where Battery voltage level blinks – both on the Indicator LED and primary LED, or just the Indicator LED
9. 可设置电池电压提示灯闪的临界值——LED指示灯和LED主灯同时闪,或仅LED指示灯闪。
10. Enable/disable the Indicator LED – disabled it if it’s not wired up or to disable it’s use completely
10. LED提示灯可开启或关闭——没有电源接入时关闭或全面关闭。
11. Enable/disable a power tail switch for switching modes with memory. An OTC (Off Time Cap) is not needed, but may not work with all hardware designs.
11. 尾部按键可开启或关闭换挡记忆功能。不需要超时临界值,但可能并非对所有硬件设计来说都有用。
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Ramping Operation无极调光操作

From OFF, click&hold ramps up with a pause at moon level — click to turn ON at last level
关机状态下,长按侧键,到月光模式亮度停止。光机状态下,单击开机记忆上次的亮度。
From ON, click&hold ramps up or down, toggling direction unless paused for at least 1.2 sec – click to turn OFF
开机状态下,长按侧键,无极调光渐亮或渐暗,除非保持当前亮度超过1.2秒,否则灯光变明变暗的顺序会改变—。单击关机。
Double-click from OFF or ON to turn on max level (the max level does not override the last level)
关机或开机状态下,双击侧键开启最高亮度(最高亮度不会覆盖记忆的亮度)。
Triple-click from OFF or ON to engage Battery Check mode
关机或开机状态下连按单击三次激活电量查看。
4X-click from OFF or ON to Lock-Out the light
关机或开机状态下单击四次锁定手电筒。
When at max level, a double-click will turn the 1st Strobe ON
在最高亮度下,双击侧键开启第一种闪光灯模式。
When in Strobe, clicks without pausing will skip to the next special mode (strobe or beacon). The special mode navigation works just like normal mode set operation: click&hold goes to the previous special mode, paused in a mode will lock it in
在闪光模式下,快速连按侧键跳转到下一特殊模式(闪烁或信号闪)。特殊闪灯的切换跟普通模式的一样,长按侧键回到上一个模式,停留1.2秒锁定当前模式。
In Battery check mode, a double-click blinks out temperature in Celsius, another double-click blinks out the firmware version # (v1.3 is 1 blink followed by 3 more)
在电量查看模式下,双击侧键,闪烁显示摄氏度温度,再次双击,闪烁显示固件版本号(V1.3版本就闪1次之后再闪3次)
Mode Set Operation档位组设置操作
From OFF, a click goes to 1st mode, while a click&hold (~1/3 sec) goes to last mode
在关机状态下,短按侧键,第1档灯亮,长按1-3秒切换到上一档。
When ON, a click goes to next mode, while a click&hold goes to the previous mode
在开机状态下,短按侧键,下一档灯亮,长按侧键切换到上一档。
if paused in a mode (over 1.2 secs), the mode locks in and then a click will turn the light OFF
如果停在某一档亮度(超过1.2秒),就会锁定当前档位,再短按侧键,将关闭手电筒。
If you are locked in a mode, a click&hold will still work to go to previous mode, and the lock-in cancels
若锁定在某一档亮度,长按侧键会切换到上一档,且锁定解除。
in any mode, including OFF, a long hold (over 1.1 sec) will turn the 1st Strobe ON
在任何模式下,包括在关机状态下,长按(超过1.1秒)侧键将开启第一种闪烁模式(一共有5档:16Hz闪,警用闪,自行车闪,两秒信号闪,10秒信号闪)。
When in Strobe, clicks without pausing will skip to the next special mode (strobe or beacon). The special mode navigation works just like normal modes: click&hold goes to the previous special mode, paused in a mode will lock it in
在闪烁模式下,快速连击侧键跳转至下一档特殊模式(闪烁或信号闪)。特殊闪灯的切换跟普通模式的一样,长按回到上一个模式,停留1.2秒锁定当前模式。
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Low Voltage Protection低压保护功能

With the light ON, when the battery voltage falls below 3.2V, it blinks three times, then drops the output level. This will be repeated until it’s at the lowest output level. If at the lowest level, and voltage falls at or below 3.0V, it blinks 8 times, then turns the light OFF.
开机状态下,电池电压低于3.2V时,指示灯每慢闪3次,之后便降一个亮度档位,如此反复,直到降至最低亮度档。如果已是最低亮度档,且电压继续降到3.0V或3.0V以下时,指示灯慢闪8次,然后关闭手电筒。
If the Indicator LED is enabled, it blinks three times as well every time the modes are dropped down, and will also blink twice every 8 seconds while the light is ON. Once the light is turned OFF after low voltage has been detected, the Indicator light will continue to blink twice every 8 seconds for 6 minutes after being turned OFF, then the light goes into power saver mode. The Indicator LED will be turned OFF if the battery voltage is below 3.2V prior to going into power saver mode to save battery charge.
如果开启了LED指示灯功能,在开机状态下,每次降低亮度档位,指示灯都会闪烁3次,且每8秒闪烁2次。低压关机后,指示灯会继续每8秒闪烁2次,持续6分钟,然后进入省电模式。在进入省电模式前,若电池电压低于3.2V,LED指示灯会关闭。
Note: When the 3.2V level is reached, and amps are reduced, the cells partially recover some voltage, so the output will stay there for a while before the next drop. If you have cells on the bench that read below 3.2V, chances are it will go thru several drops one after another, at 5 second iterations.
注意:如果达到3.2V的临界值且电流下降,电池会回升部分电压,所以降档钱前手电筒能维持一段时间的当前亮度。如果你的备用电池电压低于3.2V,可能他们的电压值将一个接一个地下降,每五秒下降一次。
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Battery Check电量查看

To Activate, Mode Set operation: from OFF, do a click quickly followed by a click&hold and keep holding for 2.5 secs. Ramping operation: triple-click. The voltage reading of the cell will be blinked out continuously – 1 click will terminate the voltage reading. For example, a 3.7V reading will results in 3 blinks, short pause, then 7 blinks. This pattern will continue forever until a click terminates it. This mode can double as a long term beacon.
档位组的情况下激活电量查看:在关机状态下,单击后快速长按2.5秒。
无极调光组情况下激活电量查看:单击3次。指示灯将持续闪烁表明电压值——单击侧键停止显示电压值。例如,电池电压读数为3.7V,指示灯将闪烁三次,短暂停顿后,再闪烁7次。这种闪灯方式将一直持续到单击侧键结束查看电量。这种闪灯方式下,连按两次侧键,指示灯常亮。
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Lock-Out Feature锁定功能

Often a light will be carried in a pocket, bag or holster where the switch might be accidentally engaged. To avoid accidental activation, sometimes the tailcap can be loosened to break the battery connection. For lights that don’t work that way, or another method preferred (avoid wear and tear on the threading), you can enter a special sequence to lock-out the light as follows:
手电筒放口袋、包里、保护套里时有可能会误按到侧键开关。为避免这个问题,有时可拧松尾盖来断开电池连接。这种方法不奏效或有更好的方法(避免路途中的磨损和破损)时,可按照下面的操作,按特殊的顺序按键,对手电筒进行锁定:

Ramping operation: From OFF or ON, 4 clicks in quick sequence. The light will blink 4 quick times to acknowledge Lock-Out has been engaged, then the normal operation of the switch should be disabled.
无极调光模式下的操作:在关机或开机状态下,快速单击4次侧键。手电筒将快速慢闪4次确认锁定功能已开启,这时侧键的正常操作就失效了。
Mode Set operation: From OFF, 2 clicks in quick sequence followed quickly by a click&hold. The light will blink 4 quick times to acknowledge Lock-Out has been engaged, then the normal operation of the switch should be disabled. If you see strobe instead of the 4 quick blinks, you know lock-out did not get set (you probably were too slow).
档位组模式下的操作:在关机状态下,双击快速长按侧键,手电筒将快速慢闪4次锁定功能已开启,这时侧键的正常操作就失效了。如果你看到的不是快速慢闪4次,而是闪烁,那就表明锁定失败(可能你按得太慢)。
To restore normal operation, do the same Lock-Out sequence. The 4 quick blinks should appear to acknowledge the action.
恢复侧键的正常操作,按照锁定按键顺序进行同样的操作。出现4次快速慢闪确认操作成功。
For both Ramping and Mode Set operation, lock-out will automatically be activated after 20 seconds of the button being held. This is meant as a safety precaution if physically stuck, but can also be activated manually.
对无极调光模式和档位组模式,都可长按侧键20秒激活锁定。这是手电筒被卡住时的安全预防措施,不过还是可以手动激活。
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Indicator LED LED指示灯

When enabled, the Indicator LED can be used for the following:
LED指示灯开启时,具备以下用途:
to locate the flashlight in the dark (Locator feature)
在光线昏暗时寻找手电筒(定位功能)
to blink out the battery level and temperature
闪烁显示电池电量和温度
as a secondary indicator of blinking when the main LED blinks
LED主灯闪烁时作为辅助指示灯
in Ramping, when you ramp to a new level, the Indicator LED will blink once to show only the 7135 is active (lower modes, high efficiency under 180 lumens), or blink twice to show the FET is active
无极调光模式下,当你调整到新的亮度档时,LED指示灯将闪烁一次,表示仅仅7135被激活(较低的亮度档,在180流明下照明效率高),或闪烁两次表明FET被激活。
When the Locator feature is enabled, the LED can be temporarily turned OFF
定位功能开启时,LED指示灯可暂时关闭。
Ramping operation: from OFF, click&hold and as soon as moon mode goes ON, click quickly to turn OFF – the Indicator/Locator LED will turn OFF
无极调光模式下关闭指示灯:在关机状态下,长按侧键,到月光模式之后,快速单击来关闭——指示灯/定位LED灯将关闭。
Mode Set operation: from OFF, 1 quick click followed by a click&hold til the main LED goes off. To toggle it back on, repeat the same procedure (OFF -> quick click, click&hold)
档位组模式下关闭指示灯:在关机状态下,单击后快速长按至LED主灯灭。如需再开启LED指示灯,重复同样的步骤(关机状态下快速单击后长按)。
Note: the locator feature is turned OFF when the light is in Lock-Out.
注意:手电筒被锁定时,指示灯功能将关闭。
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Mode Set Definitions档位组清晰度

Mode Set Order档位组顺序
Mode Count
档位数
Mode Percentages
档位百分比
Notes
备注
1
1
full only
(full is always max FET, no 7135)
2
2
10-full
max 7135, max FET
3
3
5-35-full
5=1/2 7135, 35=mixed
4
4
2-10-40-full
10=max 7135, 40=mixed
5
5
2-5-10-40-full
10=max 7135, 40=mixed
6
6
TK BLF A6 7 mode
6 well evenly spread
7
7
1-2.5-6-10-35-65-full
10=max 7135, 35=mixed
8
3
10-25-50
10=max 7135
9
3
2-20-full
2=1/5 7135, 20=mixed
10
3
2-40-full
2=1/5 7135, 40=mixed
11
3
10-35-full
10=max 7135, 35=mixed
12
4
TK BLF A6 4 mode
4 well evenly spread
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Configuration UI Operation用户界面设置

For Ramping, hold the button for 8 seconds, and for Mode Sets, hold the button for 2.5 seconds to activate the main Configuration UI settings. The light blinks 2 times quickly, and once slowly to indicate Configuration UI mode is active. As listed below, you can change or leave any of these settings – there’s no need to set each one. Clicks choose the value for each setting, and each click will blink the light to acknowledge the click. If you disable Ramping, then the next setting will be #2 under Mode Sets, and visa versa. If no clicks are entered in 3.2 seconds, the light jumps to the next configuration setting indicated by 2 quick blinks and slow quicks of the number for what setting it is (ex: 3 slow blinks means the 3rd setting). You can bypass the timeout by doing a click&hold to skip to the next setting. If you continue to hold it, it will exit configuration UI settings mode altogether, indicated by 4 quick blinks.
无极调光模式下,长按侧键8秒;档位组模式下,长按侧键2.5秒激活用户设置。手电筒快速闪烁2次,然后慢速闪烁1次,表示用户界面设置开启。见下表,你可以修改或保留下表所示的任一项设置———不需要一一设置设置。短按侧键选择要设置的数值,且每一次短按,手电筒都会闪烁以确认短按成功。如果你关闭了无极调光,便进入第2项档位设置,反之亦然。如果在3.2秒内没有短按侧键,手电筒将有2次快速闪烁和2次慢速闪烁,提示将跳转至下一项设置,慢闪的次数提示你在第几档(比如3次慢闪表示第3档)。你可以通过长按侧键跳转到下一项设置,不用等3.2秒。如果你继续长按,将会退出整个用户界面设置,4个快闪提示成功退出。
For thermal stepdown, the main LEDs will go to max output, if you click in under 5 secs, the set temperature will be unaffected, but more than 5 secs, the current temperature reading will be recorded as the new temperature to use for the stepdown – be sure you set it high enough – light should be hot enough to barely hold, or even hotter. Factory default temperature is 52C, but calibration will vary from unit to unit.
高温降档模式下,LED主灯达到最高输出电压,如果你在5秒内单击侧键,设定温度不变,如果超过5秒,当前温度读数将保存为最新的高温降档临界值——确保你设置的数值够高——手电筒应烫到几乎不能拿,或甚至更烫。出厂设置温度是52摄氏度,但是校正值将根据不同设备有所不同。
When timed stepdown is chosen, it will blink, prompting to enter the choice of time, 1-7 clicks as described below.
开启超时降档后,指示灯将闪烁,提示进入时间设置,如下所述点击1-7次。

Configuration Settings – Ramping参数设置——无极调光模式
Setting #
设置号
Function
功能
Clicks
点击次数
Default
出厂设置
1
Ramping Mode
无极调光模式
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
2次
2
Set Moonlight Level
设置月光亮度
1 – 7 (PWM value)
点击1-7次设置PWM值
3次
3
Thermal/timed stepdown
高温/超时降档
1=disable, 2= Temperature, 3=timed
Timed: 1=60secs, 2=90secs, 3=2 mins, 4=3 mins, 5=5 mins, 6=7 mins
点击1次关闭,点击2次设定温度,点击3次设定超时临界值
超时临界值设置:点击1次为60秒,点击2次为90秒,点击3次为2分钟,点击4次为3分钟,点击5次为5分钟,点击6次为7分钟
3-4次
4
Blinky mode
闪烁模式
1=disable, 2=one strobe, 3=all strobes/beacons 点击1次关闭,点击2次开启一种闪光灯,点击3次开启所有闪光灯/信号灯
3次

Configuration Settings – Mode Sets参数设置——档位组设置
Setting #
设置号
Function
功能
Clicks
点击次数
Defaults出厂设置
1
Ramping Mode
无极调光模式
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
2次
2
Choose Mode Set
选择档位组
1-12 (1-7 is # of modes) – see Mode Sets
点击1-12次(点击1-7次选择档位号) ——详见“模式选择”
4次
3
Moon Mode
月光模式
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
2次
4
Mode ordering
档位顺序
1= sets lohi, 2=sets hilo
点击1次设定为低亮度到高亮度,点击2次设定为高亮度到低亮度
1次
5
Mode Memory
档位记忆
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
1次
6
Set Moonlight Level
设置月光亮度
1 – 7 (PWM value)
点击1-7次设置PWM值
3次
7
Thermal/timed stepdown 高温/超时降档
1=disable, 2= Temperature, 3=timed
Timed: 1=60secs, 2=90secs, 3=2 mins, 4=3 mins, 5=5 mins, 6=7 mins
点击1次关闭,点击2次设定温度,点击3次设定超时临界值
超时临界值设置:点击1次为60秒,点击2次为90秒,点击3次为2分钟,点击4次为3分钟,点击5次为5分钟,点击6次为7分钟
3-4次
8
Blinky mode
闪烁模式
1=disable, 2=one strobe, 3=all strobes/beacons 点击1次关闭,点击2次开启一种闪光灯,点击3次开启所有闪光灯/信号灯
3次
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Advanced Configuration UI Operation 高级用户界面设置

The Advanced Configuration UI settings is activated from Battery Check mode by doing a click& hold for at least 1.1 seconds. The battery voltage reading will be interrupted, then the light will blink 2 times quickly, and once slowly to indicate the Adv. Configuration UI mode is active. There are 3 settings summarized below, and operates the same as the main configuration UI.
在电量查看模式下长按至少1.1秒,进入高级用户界面设置。电量查看将中断,手电筒将快速闪烁2次,慢速闪烁1次表明已启动高级用户界面设置。如下,有3种设置,操作和主要用户界面设置的相同。
Setting #
设置号
Function
功能
Clicks
点击次数
Defaults出厂设置
1
Locator LED feature
定位LED功能
1=disable, 2=enable 点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
2次
2
Battery level Indicator LED Only
仅开启电量查看LED指示灯
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
1次
3
Indicator LED Enable LED开启LED指示灯
1=disable, 2=enable
点击1次关闭,点击2次开启
2次

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Thanks for getting the BLF Q8 flashlight!

This light is a cooperation between flashlight lovers gathered on the website budgetlightforum.com and quality manufacturer Thorfire.
For more information see: bit.ly/blfq8
For a manual for how to use and configure the software on the flashlight see: bit.ly/narsilinfo
Before using this flashlight please take the time to read about how to safely treat the batteries/cells for the flashlight here: bit.ly/lionsafety (Information in several languages)

The BLF Q8 is a very powerful flashlight that requires some knowledge before and during use.
The Q8 is intended to be used with button top cells.
The use of protected cells is highly recommended.
Please make sure to install the cells correct, the button in the direction of the head/LEDs.
The Q8 is a very bright flashlight, do not point the beam at others.
Never leave the flashlight ON unattended.
The Q8 is not a toy, do not let children play with it.
Hold it when in use to monitor the temperatures and turn the light off or switch to a lower mode when it starts to become really warm.
Turn the Q8 off and let it cool if it gets hot.
Use the lock-out sequence to deactivate the switch before putting the Q8 in a pocket or bag.
When you want to store the light for a longer period of time, make sure it is clean and dry and in case you want to keep cells in it, lock the current by unscrewing the battery tube a bit (turn the light on, unscrew until it goes off).
It is advised to clean the outer parts of the light periodically.
Every couple of months check the threads, adding a bit of grease to the threads if needed.

When you encounter a problem please share it in the above linked BLF Q8 thread.

The Q8 is developed with flashlight modders in mind.
If you want to modify the flashlight, make sure you know what you are doing and/or start a thread on budgetlightforum.com on your planned mod, the friendly and experienced community will surely help you with solid advice.

And above all, enjoy this beast of a light!


Initializer of the project declares that,
the BLF Q8 flashlight,
manufactured by Thorfire,
2nd Floor West, Building A, Yi Li Technology Park, DaHe Industrial Zone, Guanlan Town, Longhua New District, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, China. 518000,
conforms to EU legislation,
and so do the manufacturing and quality control practices for it

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Thanks very much jack-bkk for translations!

Commercial text:

BLF Q8 是一款由来自世界各地的手电筒爱好者设计开发的手电筒,进入网站BudgetLightForum.com查看更多多功能手电筒。

这款手电筒可通过 1-4个18650 锂离子电池供电,通过易使用的电子侧键开关控制电源。
4盏高性能Cree XPL LED灯安装在铜板上,以保证最大亮度和安全性。

Q8定制的电路版能让电灯以低于1流明的荧火虫模式到4000以上流明的高亮度运行。

极高的频率保证了脉冲宽度调制的无声或可视操作。

这款手电筒的设计特点满足了许多不同场合的需求。
摄影师,露营者,渔夫,自行车运动员,急救工作者,可将Q8手电筒固定在三脚架上使用,无需手持电筒。

BLF Q8 一款经典的罐头设计手电筒,重新制定了更多功能,更强大,更有效率的设计。
高质量的设计制作注入4000流明的大电量 ,操作简单。
这款手电筒的亮度射程范围,可达到至少150米远的大范围区域。

Cree的XPL V6 3D中性白光LED以其质量及耐用性而闻名。
这些特点带来了吸引人的色彩。
其定制的DTP铜板为其提供了最佳的散热性能。

BLF Q8可使用多达4个18650电池。
使用一个电池时可使用低输出功率的高率频式来调节,
每增加一个电池,可使用的时间会更长;增加两个或以上电池,使用最大亮度模式时,这时可充分使用其功能。

可通过侧键开关来操作。

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这个软件非常容易操作,每位用户可以选择设定如何操作 BLF Q8.

从几乎看不见的亮度到弱光,月光/荧火虫光到明亮

手电筒有多少个可控模式(从高到低或从低到高)

推滑式控制开关(在150种亮度的范围内通过按住按扭自由滑动调节),而非模式选择按键。
松开按扭之后,亮度会保持在所需位置。

5种频闪和灯塔闪烁模式去读取电池的工作电压

手电筒的设计特点防止不使用时电池的自动耗电。

锁住开关,可防止意外开灯。

低电池电压下降防止电池烧坏。

用户可设置涡轮延时器(延时熄灯)降低电压来防止过热问题。

长按开关按键20秒开关会自动锁住并关闭电灯,以确保放在包里或口袋时不会长期亮着。

开关对面的1/4通用镙丝可用于把Q8手电筒安装在三脚架上固定起来,无需手持电筒操作。

BLF Q8 易操作,小体积便携带,可用三脚架安装固定,是一款理想的手电筒。
在大空间以及小空间的地方工作时,
如,用在剧院,摄影以及电影灯光
露营时
钓鱼或进行户外活动时
停电时足够点亮最大的房间

一款高质量的BLF Q8,值得拥有!

颜色:黑色
手电筒型号:推滑式或12种模式组合供选择

镜片 玻璃:镜片
反射器:SMO
开关形式:电子侧键开关
尾架:有
光源品牌:Cree
光源型号:XPL V6 3D
流明(最小)<1流明
流明(最大)4000 流明
是否含电池:否
电池规格:18650
电池数量:1-4个

Specs:

这是规格
要转换的中国:
…………规格………………注意事项
BLF Q8
…………标记/标志“BLF Q8”的团购,制造商可以选择事后自己打标/标志


价钱
………… $ 40 ..包括运费…。制造商可以事后决定自行定价


发射器
………… 4个…。 3535足迹

…………克里XPL NW ……。是的,现在它决定非HI XPL

…………安装在DTP星LED灯


内幕
…………集成LED架…。良好的散热至少4mm厚

………… 20 AWG电线…………

…………驱动挡圈

…………双重弹簧具有较小磷青铜弹簧

…………线程电池筒方形或梯形板(未三角形)

…………阳极氧化线程部分电池筒的螺丝拧入头锁出

…………尾盖 / 尾罩 可以拧访问连接的PCB – 细胞侧

…………线程尾盖方形或梯形板(未三角形)

…………线程挡板可以是任何制造商选择

…………电子侧开关

…………安装三脚架
………………… ..安装螺母孔未钻孔虽然整个身体,以确保防水放置按钮的对面


光学
…………铝反射器……。相同尺寸的顶部作为旧SRK反射

…………玻璃镜片……………。 2mm厚


保护的
………… O形圈表圈………。因此,质量和厚厚的完美契合

………… O型圈电池筒…质量从而厚,完美契合

………… O型环尾盖……。因此,质量和厚厚的完美契合

………… 铝 合金…… .. 6061-T6

………… II型阳极氧化…不是HA3的团购

…………防水侧开关

…………不锈钢表圈

…………轻型带有用于所有大小备用O型圈


软件
………… tom电子纳西尔圣剑固件
…………几种模式和闪烁模式
…………用户可配置
…………固定模式和斜坡
…………电压检查
…………低压切断
…………锁定


驱动程序设计
…………汤姆E代表纳西尔圣剑固件的电子开关驱动器
…………非常低寄生漏
…………能跑1,2,3和/或4键顶部18650电池(S)

……。 MCU …。爱特梅尔ATTINY85V-10SH或ATTINY85-20SU包是很重要的:8S2

……。 FET …。马努:日前,Vishay Siliconix公司,马努PN:SIR800DP-T1-GE3,Digikey PN:SIR800DP-T1-GE3CT-ND
……………………外形:PPAK SO-8

……。电阻… .. 0805 SMD 47K OHM 1%1 / 8W

……。电阻… .. 0805 SMD 220K OHM 1%1 / 8W

……。电阻… .. 0805 SMD 47K OHM 1%1 / 8W

……。二极管…… ..肖特基,10V 570千安SOD323马努PN:ZLLS410TA,Digi-Key询问PN:ZLLS410CT-ND

……。电容…。 0805陶瓷,12uF 16V X7R
……………………………… ..如果可能的12 uF的或更高,而不是10 uF的 – 可能需要

……。 7135芯片…。 7135用于低模式350毫安7135安培稳压器


质量
……………。样品100%同意并出售之前延续指定

……………。最终生产灯100%同意,规定和样品

……………。跌落试验装运包装的视频可供出售前灯提供。
…………………。该视频显示在包装的光的至少10滴从至少1米多高
…………………。落在不同的角度,在8个顶点,底部和侧第一击中地面

……………装运前进行测试,以发现并解决问题,避免 产品无法正常工作(无法启动电源)。所有灯。


驱动程序设计说明
… ..The 47K和220K电阻分压器,其中所述220K为R1,所述47K为R2
… ..The 12K电阻是FET栅极电阻(从单片机的I / O引脚跟踪到FTE门,
……连接到地。)
… ..Diode是反极性保护
… ..The SIR800DP FET是昂贵的,但可以轻松处理高安培我们得到驱动4个并联LED的
……。从4并联电池,没有任何退化或热量。它是它的大小不平凡的表演FET

The commercial text in English, yeah it was way out of our comfort zone to write it, but we needed something to explain our ideas to China manufacturer Wink )

BLF Q8
This flashlight is completely designed and developed by flashlight enthusiasts from around the world, gathered on the website BudgetLightForum.com
The result is a highly versatile flashlight.

It can be powered by one to four 18650 Lithium Ion batteries and is controlled by an easy to use electronic side switch.
The four high performance neutral white Cree XPL LEDs are mounted on a copper plate for maximum light output and reliability.

The custom built circuit board for the Q8 allows the light to operate from below 1 lumen firefly mode to a massive 4000+ lumens.

Very high frequency insures no audible or visible PWM.

The features in this one flashlight makes it suitable for a lot of situations a flashlight is needed for.
Photographers, campers, fisherman, cyclist and emergency workers can fit the Q8 to a tripod for hands free use.

BLF Q8
A classic soda/soup can flashlight design, re-engineered with more functionality, power and efficiency.
4000 lumen of flood and decent throw in a high quality, easy to use flashlight.
This flashlight lights up a large area to at least 150 meters away.

Cree XPL V6 3D Neutral White LEDs are known for their quality and durability. These offer a pleasant tint.
The custom DTP copper plate provides the best possible heat dissipation.

The BLF Q8 uses up to four 18650 batteries.
It works with just one battery with reduced output on the higher modes and with every battery added it can work longer and with two or more batteries used the brightest modes are fully functional.

It is operated with a side switch.

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The software makes it very easy to use.
Every user can choose to configure how the BLF Q8 works:

moon/firefly, brightness from barely visible to very low

how many modes the light has
the order of the modes (from hi to low or low to high)

ramping instead of modes (smooth gliding between 150 brightness levels with a click and hold. The light stays in the desired brightness level when the switch is released.)

5 strobe and beacon blinking modes yes or no
to read out voltage of the batteries

The light is safe with features to prevent parasitic drain to avoid depleting the battery when not in use.

lock out of the switch, this prevents accidental turning the light on.

low battery voltage step down and cut off to prevent battery damage.

User configured Turbo timer step down to avoid heat issues.

When the switch is not locked out by user and is pressed for 20 seconds it will automatically lock out and turn the light off, to make sure it will not go on when put in a bag or pocket.

Opposite of the switch a 1/4” UNC thread can be used for mounting the Q8 to a tripod and hands free operation.

With its ease of operation, relative compact size and tripod mount the BLF Q8 is an ideal light to use:
During work in large and small spaces
As theater, photo and movie lighting
On the camping
When fishing or during other outdoor activities
To light up even the biggest rooms during power outage

BLF Q8, a high quality must have!
Color Black
Flashlight Modes Ramping or 12 mode groups to choose from

Lens Glass Lens
Reflector SMO
Switch Type electronic side switch
Tail Stand Yes
Light Source Brand Cree
Light Source Model XPL V6 3D
Lumens (Min) <1 lumen
Lumens (Max) 4000 Lumens
Batteries Included No
Battery Form Factor 18650
Required Battery Count 1 up to 4

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Nice initiative! But if the idea is going to be a new design by a manufacturer, I see a thousand good reasons to have a good conversation with kronological about it, to avoid the many pitfalls.

I like the idea of Thorfire making it more than a deal with Fasttech. I think I remember that attempts of group buys with discount never worked with Fasttech.

If it is designed from scratch, a version can be made with a 4mm shelf that is continuous with the body, and separate ledboards screwed on top of it, that would be very versatile, and good for the heat path! The driver could simply be the Kronos X5/X6 driver expanded to the SRK-size board. A (elegant) handle would be a great extra!

Depending on how it turns out, I’m in

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Nice idea.

Wouldn’t it better with a copper shelf instead of brass?

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PM send to Toykeeper
PM send to Thorfire

And yes agree let’s make the shelf an integral part of the housing and 4mm thick

How about the famous PD68 tailcap?

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The Supfire M6 and Roche M170 both have an integrated shelf, the former being around the same price as you propose.

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Yeah I’m in

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Great idea, always wanted a good SRK. However I would go with an electronic switch version and forget the lighted tailcap.

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I’m interested. I’m short on funds, so can’t commit to anything yet, but I like it. One thing I’d like to suggest, though. I know a lot of people like tail clicky for lockout, but I’d rather see lockout through the UI with the side e-switch. It works well on the Olight S20-L2, IMHO. And it will cut down on the major design changes that need to be done to the light.

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agnelucio wrote:
The Supfire M6 and Roche M170 both have an integrated shelf, the former being around the same price as you propose.

yes, hence the reason for aiming at that pricepoint. if they can do it so can we Wink
An integrated shelf is also a nice cost reductor compared to copper or brass screwins.

And as far as group buys, yes it is my first, however I do have some experience with dealing with Azian companies.
This is my idea and basic design,
Asus was not keen om making it, but I was sure this would be a great idea.

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Hi The Miller,

If you keep the interest list in the second post, every single update of the list will generate update-mails to thread-subsribers and the updated-button in the recent posts page will direct to that 2nd post every time, instead of the really new posts.

Updates to the OP will not do that, so it is better to keep the list there.

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cool, thanks!

Zou je in het team voor dit project willen? (MAW wat meer PMs ontvangen dan normaal)

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Well the Supfire M6 for 40 USD is just the basic version, if you want the “pimped version” with higher output (4000 lumens) and better FW you must add another 50 USD!

I would not recommend to go for a lighted tailcap, but It would be great to have a choice of LED type (Nichia for the photographers and those who want the natural colors or Cree´s for maximum output)

Anyway i´m interested! I was tempted many times to get me such a can but resisted because I din´t want the cheap latticebright LEDs….

K.

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I’m interested Wink

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Yes the tail switch is ditched for lock out via the side switch, cheaper to make, less parts so no brainer.

Will update OP now

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Interesting…but with all the extras you have in mind I guess it will never become reality.

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the only two main differences wth the original SRK are the integrated shelf and cell status via side witch.

We are basically asing Thorfire to make a new light, based on proven design, proven pularity, known sale of first batch. They can up the price for their own branded ones and have the best SRK available, we would recommend that instead of the Supfire.
I think whoever i going to build this light is offered a great deal but I would love to see a Happy box SRK arrive Wink

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The Miller wrote:
cool, thanks!

Zou je in het team voor dit project willen? (MAW wat meer PMs ontvangen dan normaal)


=prima, ik denk dat ik qua design wel wat kan bijdragen Smile
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chance of low voltage cut off?

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One more idea from the peanut gallery. Probably not for this group buy, but maybe in the future. A “mini” SRK with 4P 14500 and 4x XPL HI V3 emitters! Integrated shelf should dissipate heat well enough. Smaller reflector size would ensure less throw, but who ever bought SRK for throw anyway? Sizing it down to 4× 14500 would make it pocketable, and with the 4x XPL HI V3 emitters, it would still be awesomely bright! A lot of the longer standing members already have SRK-size SRK’s (LOL), but the smaller size would make it unique, and possibly more would be on board for one. Then again, maybe I’m the only one. Silly

One note about the size: the ratio of diameter/length of a 14500 is almost exactly the same as 18650, so the entire body design of the SRK could just be scaled down a bit and still look and function the same. Nothing new to design, really. Upgrade the driver and LEDs of course, just like we’re talking about here.

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Hahaha oh yeah a cute little baby SRK
I hope we are getting a nice thing going here and can indeed follow that up with a smaller version.

How a about a name for this current BLF Premium Soupcan?

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DavidEF wrote:
One more idea from the peanut gallery. Probably not for this group buy, but maybe in the future. A “mini” SRK with 4P 14500 and 4x XPL HI V3 emitters! Integrated shelf should dissipate heat well enough. Smaller reflector size would ensure less throw, but who ever bought SRK for throw anyway? Sizing it down to 4× 14500 would make it pocketable, and with the 4x XPL HI V3 emitters, it would still be awesomely bright! A lot of the longer standing members already have SRK-size SRK’s (LOL), but the smaller size would make it unique, and possibly more would be on board for one. Then again, maybe I’m the only one. Silly

One note about the size: the ratio of diameter/length of a 14500 is almost exactly the same as 18650, so the entire body design of the SRK could just be scaled down a bit and still look and function the same. Nothing new to design, really. Upgrade the driver and LEDs of course, just like we’re talking about here.

That form factor would be very very cool, I’m all for it, but I would not like to miss out the chance to make it 4S on Eneloops (+alkalines for backup): the energy density will be a little less, but the batteries are safe and available everywhere. And you have 4.8V nominal and great current capability (at 10A you still have over 4V to play with) to make it a real hotrod.

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JakeDjanitor wrote:
chance of low voltage cut off?

Yes, good point, added!
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Two please! I was just showing a friend some SRK videos—one will be a gift for him.

Some thoughts:

  • Nichia 219C — Yes!
  • Bistro UI — Yes!
  • lockout via side switch — Yes!
  • tripod mount?
  • anti-reflective lens?

Thank you for your efforts Miller, I hope this GB takes off quickly! Smile

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I can’t commit to buying one right now, but I love the idea! Way to go Miller, and I’m excited to see how this comes out!
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djozz wrote:
DavidEF wrote:
One more idea from the peanut gallery. Probably not for this group buy, but maybe in the future. A “mini” SRK with 4P 14500 and 4x XPL HI V3 emitters! Integrated shelf should dissipate heat well enough. Smaller reflector size would ensure less throw, but who ever bought SRK for throw anyway? Sizing it down to 4× 14500 would make it pocketable, and with the 4x XPL HI V3 emitters, it would still be awesomely bright! A lot of the longer standing members already have SRK-size SRK’s (LOL), but the smaller size would make it unique, and possibly more would be on board for one. Then again, maybe I’m the only one. Silly

One note about the size: the ratio of diameter/length of a 14500 is almost exactly the same as 18650, so the entire body design of the SRK could just be scaled down a bit and still look and function the same. Nothing new to design, really. Upgrade the driver and LEDs of course, just like we’re talking about here.

That form factor would be very very cool, I’m all for it, but I would not like to miss out the chance to make it 4S on Eneloops (+alkalines for backup): the energy density will be a little less, but the batteries are safe and available everywhere. And you have 4.8V nominal and great current capability (at 10A you still have over 4V to play with) to make it a real hotrod.

I really like this idea too – in fact, I’d probably be more likely to buy a 4xAA (4S/Eneloop) version than I would a 4×18650 version. Cool

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I’ll take one as long as it stays close to the original design and not get super complicated with several switches and a UI that requires a book or flow chart. I want to be able to turn it on (and it be bright) and off easily.
Thanks !!

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OP updated.

And I like the idea to follow this up with a smaller baby (AA and 14500 cell) version when all goes well very much!
We should have a good relationship with the manufacterer/seller by then. But lets start here Wink

And seeing how other groupbuys go, this may take some time, do not expect it in your hand anytime soon.

Could there be a ramping driver with this UI:
O 1 click on (on memorized brightness)
O double click hold second click ramping up from moon to turbo, release when brightness of choice is reached.
O triple click hold third click ramping down from turbo to moon, release when brightness of choice is reached.
This sounds like an awesome UI don’t you think?

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I’m in for one at least!! Sounds great

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Andyman wrote:
djozz wrote:
DavidEF wrote:
One more idea from the peanut gallery. Probably not for this group buy, but maybe in the future. A “mini” SRK with 4P 14500 and 4x XPL HI V3 emitters! Integrated shelf should dissipate heat well enough. Smaller reflector size would ensure less throw, but who ever bought SRK for throw anyway? Sizing it down to 4× 14500 would make it pocketable, and with the 4x XPL HI V3 emitters, it would still be awesomely bright! A lot of the longer standing members already have SRK-size SRK’s (LOL), but the smaller size would make it unique, and possibly more would be on board for one. Then again, maybe I’m the only one. Silly

One note about the size: the ratio of diameter/length of a 14500 is almost exactly the same as 18650, so the entire body design of the SRK could just be scaled down a bit and still look and function the same. Nothing new to design, really. Upgrade the driver and LEDs of course, just like we’re talking about here.

That form factor would be very very cool, I’m all for it, but I would not like to miss out the chance to make it 4S on Eneloops (+alkalines for backup): the energy density will be a little less, but the batteries are safe and available everywhere. And you have 4.8V nominal and great current capability (at 10A you still have over 4V to play with) to make it a real hotrod.

I really like this idea too – in fact, I’d probably be more likely to buy a 4xAA (4S/Eneloop) version than I would a 4×18650 version. Cool


You guys are right! What was I thinking? Make it 4S AA for Eneloops! In fact, a buck driver that could handle up to 4S Li-Ion would cover us, wouldn’t it?

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