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Sorry Dale!  I had already reflowed them to see if they would handle direct drive, and assumed that you already probably had a million 16mms laying around.... DOH!  I do appreciate your patience.

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I got disappointing measurements of the XHP35 “E4-3C” I bought from your shop

XT12GT @5m with cheap Luxmeter

1. measurement
“E4-3C”
2210 Lux —> 55250Lux@1m

new LED reflowed

2. measurement
E2-3C from a BLF member that saw the real label
3610 Lux —> 90250@1m

E2 is the highest flux bin for the XHP35 HI

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Lexel wrote:
I got disappointing measurements of the XHP35 “E4-3C” I bought from your shop

XT12GT @5m with cheap Luxmeter

1. measurement
“E4-3C”
2210 Lux —> 55250Lux@1m

new LED reflowed

2. measurement
E2-3C from a BLF member that saw the real label
3610 Lux —> 90250@1m

E2 is the highest flux bin for the XHP35 HI


So you’re thinking Richard received some mislabeled or phony emitters from one of his suppliers?

Texas Ace Lumen Tube and JoshK Sphere calibrated with Maukka lights

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The E4 3C I did have were from Cutter.  From what I could tell, they were the real deal.  I sold dozens of them to other BLF members, some of which I know tested them.  I also know that V54 used a ton of them in his lights, which he tests in the light box and for throw.  Now, we didn't have an E2 to compare against, but what you're measuring is more like C2.  I don't do business anymore with Cutter.

At any rate, I find it interesting that you keep posting here about items you have for sale---and that makes me question your motives.  I don't have any problem with you selling things, but there are better ways to go about it.  

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That’s pretty rude, for someone to sell/advertise their products in MTN Electronics’ topic…

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Enderman wrote:
That’s pretty rude, for someone to sell/advertise their products in MTN Electronics’ topic…

I see no advertising text or link, as I posted none
I just pointed out that that LED I received from RMM that he got from cutter does have a way too low lux reading, it is possible they mixed up the good with some bad LEDs when they shipped him E4-3C

I could not test it before as I got my first luxmeter yesterday

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No problem Dude, just tinkering anyway. I should have notated instead of assuming. lol

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was about to order more XP-L HI v3 3c …I don’t see it on the website.

Are you going to be selling them again?

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was about to order more XP-L HI v3 3c ...I don't see it on the website. Are you going to be selling them again?

Unfortunately for now the V3 3C has been replaced with V2 3A.  Sometimes getting the very highest bins is luck of the draw.  

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was about to order more XP-L HI v3 3c …I don’t see it on the website. Are you going to be selling them again?

Unfortunately for now the V3 3C has been replaced with V2 3A.  Sometimes getting the very highest bins is luck of the draw.  

Ahh…

I’m sure the output difference’s minimal.

I tried to use the v3 3c on the tpad i got from you and move it over to the new quad board. But for some reason they won’t come off the tpad board. The LED got so hot I accidentally touch the corner of the emitter and top came right off. Super soft.

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The TPAD quad takes even heat from the top and bottom to get a good reflow of the side pads because it uses a 2-layer copper construction for the electrical connections, so if only heated quickly from the bottom the thermal pad will reflow far before the side pads do, and it can be difficult to manage well with just a hot air gun or hot plate.  

The silicone becomes extra soft when it is heated.  I think that we've all accidentally done a hot dedome a time or two when reflowing emitters.... yell

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A few days ago I received a production model Emisar D1 for evaluation.  It is a sweet little light!!!  Quite the little pocket thrower. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, here is a quick summary:

  • Same battery tubes as Emisar D4 (good!)
  • Same user interface and driver as Emisar D4 (good!)
  • Same anodizing, style, and machining quality as the Emisar D4 (good!)
  • Larger ~ mm reflector.  It is an excellent reflector for its size!  Very tight and crisp hotspot. 
    • Hotspot with an XP-L HI emitter is nearly equivalent to a C8 reflector with a domed emitter.
    • Spill is slightly larger than a C8.
  • Thermally it can run much longer than the D4 due to the single emitter and larger head.
  • I cannot think of a light that can directly compare with this at this price point.  
  • Price will be the same as the D4 ($40).  
  • I am not sure yet what all of the emitter options will be, but I think that the XP-L HI will be the one to get in this light.  

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picture not showing, maybe it’s my computer? I saw the picture however on the D4 thread! The wait begins…….

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Got a pic of the D1?

Thanks! Smile

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Very similar to the Godmes T01 but with a better cell for power supply (better UI too, of course). Interesting. And here I am with this 20700 bored tube not in use…. hmmmmm. Save me the first green one, gotta have it! Big Smile

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Nice D1!

Any further technical specs available yet – Dimensions, lumens, lux?

Approx ETA for pre-order/availability?

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!http://intl-outdoor.com/images/IMG_1962_t.jpg!

Looks good! Any more pics or specs?
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Hank’s estimate for the D1 is 40 kcd.

It looks like it’ll be similar in size to the BLF X5, only with slightly more throw, 18650 instead of 14500, and an e-switch UI. Or it’ll be like a Zebralight SC600 with more throw and a slightly wider head.

I’ll definitely want a green one with NW XP-L HI. Smile

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I think that Hank is spot on with the ~40kcd number.  I measured my sample D1 at ~44kcd w/ a VTC5, so that's definitely in the range.  

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Hi Richard, I haven’t forgotten your offer to reflash my original D4 heads from day one orders, and yes after your last reply to me via email around 8-22 I got another email at the same moment about a intestate estate I’ve been carrying for 3 yrs now so had to jump on that situation and had to put the heads on low priority for a minute, or well more like weeks now I guess, I’m sorry .

I will get them out this week and for return shipping I’ll buy something from your store and have a note to your store order process about holding the purchase until heads are ready to ship back with new stuff and as I’ve mentioned to you before there is absolutely NO rush on these, a month or 6 months is fine with me, these are version ones, saw your message here about 8-18 asking that question and the ones I’m sending only blink when the light ramps up to max, where as the new one I bought following TK tweaks it blinks in the middle and I think right at max or just below.

I did notice maybe another glitch of sorts, the TM Toggling switch, you 10 click the light to my recollection to toggle the TM and it will blink 4 & 5, but the glitch is that it blinks the same pattern for on or off, one set might or should be perhaps 4&4 for On then 4&5 for off, maybe.?
It’s very easy to tell what it’s set at on or off because the head heats up so fast, you’ll see it stepping down rather quickly so that’s how I am able to tell.

With the upcoming D1, will the shorty tubes from D4 be interchangeable.? Nice light,

Thank you for all you help Richard, remember when these heads get there they are LOW priority, NO hurray and I’ll buy stuff for the return shipping and make notes so your not trying to figure out what knucklehead sent you a bunch of D4 heads with no note attached,

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Somewhat disappointed there’s no V3 bin. But I may swap it anyway…

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Hey Richard, got any interest/ideas toward deep carry clips for the D4?
The kind that have a ring around the tailcap/head threads, ideally.

(Some discussion in TK’s review thread)
The current Solarforce tail clip could be reamed/ground/scraped out slightly to fit. Or threads cut in it?

Also as someone asked earlier, any chance of buying spare tailcaps to drill and attach a lanyard ring?

Of all the flashlights one wouldn’t want to drop — and that can surprise one enough to drop them … the D4 is right up there at risk.

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Something more specific than the thread might be useful… it has somehow become one of the longest threads on BLF.

However, D4-compatible clips would be awesome. The Convoy clip fits but isn’t a great fit. Some with potential were found on taobao, IIRC, and maybe a Nitecore clip might fit, and some ring-in clips can fit after some dremeling, and … meh. Maybe Hank will make an official clip someday. For now though, it’d be awesome to have some sort of clips available for the 18650 and 18350 flavors of the D4/D1.

Something like the Olight S-series clip sounds nice, but for now I’ve got a modded Solarforce L2 clip ringed in.

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Regarding the clips---on my end, I'm not really interested in having to modify hundreds or thousands of inexpensive clips, so it has to be a "ready-to-run" solution, whatever it is.  I wonder if Hank couldn't source something to sell with the lights?  It seems like it would be a no brainer, but maybe it doesn't make economic sense.  

I also do not know about spare tailcaps.  I am not sure if they are having them manufactured in matched sets (likely) and how much more it would cost to get extra tailcaps manufactured with lanyard holes in them (I am not interested in drilling/machining them myself).  

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T18: You can't toggle the thermal management off in the new firmware, so it is much safer.  

Yes, the D1 and D4 tubes are identical.  

 

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T18: You can’t toggle the thermal management off in the new firmware, so it is much safer.

Yes, the D1 and D4 tubes are identical.


Yes I did notice that TM toggle capability is gone now on the new D4, with all the UI fixes this light is complete now, really do like it a lot and very excited waiting to get this D1 as well, sometime this month perhaps..??
Great news re: tubes from D4 to D1, that light will be another winner for Hank, sure glad to see him come out with some new products. Thanks again
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Hi Richard is there a problem the mountain electronics international site have been trying to order some stuff every time I go to check out it tells me to I need to go to the international store when I'm already there?

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Got the 30mm FET+7135 Driver – 2S Momentary – Convoy L6 with D4 V2 firmware installed along with a lighted E-SW pad.
OOOOH it’s Sweet!!
10.1A after 30sec and all mode options working well so far.
Thank you Sir.

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vwpieces wrote:
Got the 30mm FET+7135 Driver – 2S Momentary – Convoy L6 with D4 V2 firmware installed along with a lighted E-SW pad.
OOOOH it’s Sweet!!
10.1A after 30sec and all mode options working well so far.
Thank you Sir.

So what does this D4V2 firmware do with the tail cap? Just On/Off Lock out?

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