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KevinZA1988 wrote:
Anyone else happy with the 7A tint? It’s rosy AF!
I like it a lot for candle mode, which is what I got it for.

But besides that… I do not like it at all, it is much to warm for me.

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I didn’t think 3D was supposed to be “rosy”, but it shouldn’t be as green as the picture above either. Life is like a box of chocolates with tints sometimes. You never know what you’re gonna get. There is a range within each tint bin too.
I really wanted to get a 7A, but talked myself out of it, at least so far, because it is SO warm. I’m still tempted though . I really wish we could have had a 5A or 5D option.

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I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.

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Igor wrote:
I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.
I can certainly believe that. Thumbs Up

It is just far to warm for my use as a light.

For a candle it is great however. . Beer

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Any update on the other body colours yet?

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
Anyone else happy with the 7A tint? It’s rosy AF!

I think it’s a very pleasing tint. Cold tints make me sick. Anything over 5000K is seriously nauseating after some time.

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Igor wrote:
I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.

After holding back, it is time to chime in about the 7A. I like warm tints, but this thing is totally ORANGE. Every time I use the 7A it is like being transported to an Arizona desert and no, I do not use drugs. The first time I turned it on I immediately thought the kids will love this thing on Halloween! I almost fell down some stairs outside the house from being mesmerized by the desert look of everything around me. Of course, others may have rose tints or a liking for orange…. and this is just one opinion.

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I wanted a FW3A, but had no 4000 or 4500k options, and 5000k is too cold for me. So I had to choose 3300k, for a lack of option.

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Igor wrote:
I wanted a FW3A, but had no 4000 or 4500k options, and 5000k is too cold for me. So I had to choose 3300k, for a lack of option.

I can always reflow some 4000k emitters for you. PM me.

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@Igor, there are 4000k options in the SST-20 range.

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raccoon city wrote:
I guess I like rosy!

Igor wrote:
I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.

7A have terrible colour rendering. I get rid of them for LH351D 4k 90CRI, much better.
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Probably has been asked. How does the new lens configuration effect OTF lumens?

I posted measurements for both here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/c6vfe5/review_lumintop_fw3a...

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BlueSwordM wrote:
@Igor, there are 4000k options in the SST-20 range.

When I bought, there were only 3300, 5000 or cool white available.

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It’s absolutely beautiful.

I agree! Love

It almost looks like woodgrain!

WOW. That looks sweet. Did you do the patina yourself?

Only insofar as handling the light. I did nothing to force the patina.

Can you perhaps post a picture of the light in natural light? Maybe a picture taken outdoors? I know artificial light makes the patina look more prominent.

Per your request, I took one outside, clear sky.

Also, here’s the RAW for anyone curious.

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ferthur wrote:
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ferthur wrote:
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It’s absolutely beautiful.

I agree! Love

It almost looks like woodgrain!

WOW. That looks sweet. Did you do the patina yourself?

Only insofar as handling the light. I did nothing to force the patina.

Can you perhaps post a picture of the light in natural light? Maybe a picture taken outdoors? I know artificial light makes the patina look more prominent.

Per your request, I took one outside, clear sky.

Also, here’s the RAW for anyone curious.

Yup, looks gorgeous. Clear coat that thing and lock in that look! I usually don’t like copper patina, but this went great.

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That looks amazing… Don’t know what oils your hands are giving off but mine hasn’t developed patina that fast.

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Helios azimuth wrote:
After holding back, it is time to chime in about the 7A. I like warm tints, but this thing is totally ORANGE. Every time I use the 7A it is like being transported to an Arizona desert and no, I do not use drugs. The first time I turned it on I immediately thought the kids will love this thing on Halloween! I almost fell down some stairs outside the house from being mesmerized by the desert look of everything around me. Of course, others may have rose tints or a liking for orange…. and this is just one opinion.

I like it. Yes, it’s very warm, and it does make things look a bit unnatural. It’s not a light for outdoors. It’s a light for a incandescent-like mood light for indoors. Watching TV, etc.

It might be better if it was high-CRI. I think the Emissar D4v2 offers 3000K in a high-CRI SST-20 LED.

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WalkIntoTheLight wrote:
Helios azimuth wrote:
After holding back, it is time to chime in about the 7A. I like warm tints, but this thing is totally ORANGE. Every time I use the 7A it is like being transported to an Arizona desert and no, I do not use drugs. The first time I turned it on I immediately thought the kids will love this thing on Halloween! I almost fell down some stairs outside the house from being mesmerized by the desert look of everything around me. Of course, others may have rose tints or a liking for orange…. and this is just one opinion.

I like it. Yes, it’s very warm, and it does make things look a bit unnatural. It’s not a light for outdoors. It’s a light for a incandescent-like mood light for indoors. Watching TV, etc.

It might be better if it was high-CRI. I think the Emissar D4v2 offers 3000K in a high-CRI SST-20 LED.

My FW3A has 3000K 90 CRI SST-20’s in it. And my FW3C is 7A XP-L HI. Personally, I find both the warm tints very good indoors, or around the house. Obviously out in the field or bush a more neutral tint will perform better. It’s like mad things wants a warm tint, and natural things wants a neutral tint.

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Is your 7A significantly brighter than your SST-20?

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cabfrank wrote:
Is your 7A significantly brighter than your SST-20?

To my eyes, about 20% brighter. But the the SST-20’s has a narrower beam and a bit more throw as expected.

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
That looks amazing… Don’t know what oils your hands are giving off but mine hasn’t developed patina that fast.

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Joshk wrote:
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That looks amazing… Don’t know what oils your hands are giving off but mine hasn’t developed patina that fast.

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I’m not sure how I feel about this, but don’t forget about the outdoor glamour shot!

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@ KevinZA, that sounds reasonable. Are you using the same optic?

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@ KevinZA, that sounds reasonable. Are you using the same optic?

Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

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Yep. Guilty as charged. It is definitely not as bright. I’m going to try different optics to see what works best.

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

But the 4000k SST20 looks amazing outside in the dark walking around either a veggie garden or flower bed. The colors just pop and I can give up a few lumens for that. The heat on the other hand is insane with the SST20’s.

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KevinZA1988 wrote:
Yeah, I even swapped optics to confirm that the optics are the same. Lumen junkies will complain about the SST-20’s.

But the 4000k SST20 looks amazing outside in the dark walking around either a veggie garden or flower bed. The colors just pop and I can give up a few lumens for that. The heat on the other hand is insane with the SST20’s.

Yeah, but the 4000K is not what I would call warm… Neutral, yes. I’m waiting for the funky colored FW3A lights to be released then I’ll order that emitter combo.

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I do like the tint a lot. Hotter, and less bright though, not so much.

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Igor wrote:
I have problems with my 7A, distinguishing reds, pinks and violets with low power modes.

You may be noticing the Purkinje effect, combined with the relatively low output of red from the 80CRI emitter.

I haven’t done any rigorous testing, but I tend to assume high CRI should be particularly helpful for maintaining color discrimination in the red range as intensity is decreased, although even that would not completely counter the Purkinje effect.

Helios azimuth wrote:
After holding back, it is time to chime in about the 7A. I like warm tints, but this thing is totally ORANGE

Do you have other 3000K lights you’re comparing it to?

And is this when it’s fully dark? I’ve got a 3000K XM-L2 light that seems comparatively very orange if I’m using it around what is often called the “blue hour,” which occurs after sunset but before it is fully dark.

I don’t like such warm color temperatures for that kind of situation. On the other hand, indoors, where my last light exposure was likely a 2700-3000K bulb, or around a campfire after it’s totally dark, 3000K is great.

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My SST-20 4000K came today. The emitters are great but the new switch is terrible compared to the first run one. Metal-on-metal squeaky and not nearly as solid feeling Sad

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